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Old 12-27-2012, 03:03 AM
 
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I can give tons of examples. Girls that have dumped me because I was a 'nice' guy and leave with the bad boy. He then abuses her and she comes back to me crying and wanting now wanting me. I have had guys tell me my problem is I am too nice.

I am not a wimp or effemiant. It's just that I sincerely care about people and respect them. I don't use them as toys. But that it seems is the rule. Be selfish, get what you can and then when it creates drama, simply move on to the next.

Every time I do something genuinely nice, people get really uncomfortable. It has been my experience that people are really more comfortable treating and being treated like crap.

It seems because of this I am quite lonely and no one understands me. Girls show interest and then seem turned off when I treat others with respect, but love the bully who runs them down.

Are people really this bad? What am I missing? What is it I fail to see or understand about people and relationships?
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:05 AM
 
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I can give tons of examples. Girls that have dumped me because I was a 'nice' guy and leave with the bad boy. He then abuses her and she comes back to me crying and wanting now wanting me. I have had guys tell me my problem is I am too nice.

I am not a wimp or effemiant. It's just that I sincerely care about people and respect them. I don't use them as toys. But that it seems is the rule. Be selfish, get what you can and then when it creates drama, simply move on to the next.

Every time I do something genuinely nice, people get really uncomfortable. It has been my experience that people are really more comfortable treating and being treated like crap.

It seems because of this I am quite lonely and no one understands me. Girls show interest and then seem turned off when I treat others with respect, but love the bully who runs them down.

Are people really this bad? What am I missing? What is it I fail to see or understand about people and relationships?
Are you sure you aren't doing things that are creepy, which you think are genuinely nice? If you're making people unfortable with your gestures, chances are you're giving more than is appropriate for the circumstances.
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:00 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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Please God, please...... no mas por favor....

Not another "nice guy" thread.....
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:27 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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I can give tons of examples. Girls that have dumped me because I was a 'nice' guy and leave with the bad boy. He then abuses her and she comes back to me crying and wanting now wanting me. I have had guys tell me my problem is I am too nice.

I am not a wimp or effemiant. It's just that I sincerely care about people and respect them. I don't use them as toys. But that it seems is the rule. Be selfish, get what you can and then when it creates drama, simply move on to the next.

Every time I do something genuinely nice, people get really uncomfortable. It has been my experience that people are really more comfortable treating and being treated like crap.

It seems because of this I am quite lonely and no one understands me. Girls show interest and then seem turned off when I treat others with respect, but love the bully who runs them down.

Are people really this bad? What am I missing? What is it I fail to see or understand about people and relationships?
Be a best friend to yourself.

Problem solved.

You don't need anyone.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:01 AM
 
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You are being you. Look for people like you, not for people you like.

Stay the course....The right people are out there....make people earn your kindness....that helps weed out the riff raff, which is who you are describing..
Your "friends" seem to be less than desirable IMO...There will always be those that take advantage...Be watchful of those type folks.

Be kind, be generous when your trust is earned....but never put yourself last in your everyday friendships...Take care of you, and the rest will fall into place. Don't get involved in fly by night relationships...the right lady is out there.

Go to the places that other nice people are. Do volunteer work, get back into college, don't make bars your only social gathering place...get into community theater...look for opportunities to grow You.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:14 AM
 
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Bull. There's a "bad boy" to every guy. These guys are getting girls because they know what to do and say in the right situation. I hate it when anyone thinks you have to be a jerk to get what you want. That's why the world's so messed up. People get what they want because they have tactic. Learn something about women. Not all of us want to be smothered in your so called kindness. Have some personality. Don't think just because you give in to everything we say you're going to get what you want. Actually, I find overwhelming kindness to be annoying. I would run the other direction. It's all about give and take. It's like you're giving so much that you expect just as much from the other person in some form whether you know it or not. And stop putting women on a pedestal. Learn to say no, good God.

In fact read The Manual by Steve Santagati. I started it but had to stop because I got eye surgery but that guy knows women. Or at least see what he does. Except he's kind of a player lol

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Old 12-27-2012, 05:19 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Try it and get back to us on how it worked on for ya...
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:22 AM
 
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Marcia Sirota: The Difference Between Being Nice and Being Kind
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Hampton
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When you say you do something genuinely nice what do you mean? Because if people are getting uncomfortable that would be strange.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I can give tons of examples. Girls that have dumped me because I was a 'nice' guy and leave with the bad boy. He then abuses her and she comes back to me crying and wanting now wanting me. I have had guys tell me my problem is I am too nice.

I am not a wimp or effemiant. It's just that I sincerely care about people and respect them. I don't use them as toys. But that it seems is the rule. Be selfish, get what you can and then when it creates drama, simply move on to the next.

Every time I do something genuinely nice, people get really uncomfortable. It has been my experience that people are really more comfortable treating and being treated like crap.

It seems because of this I am quite lonely and no one understands me. Girls show interest and then seem turned off when I treat others with respect, but love the bully who runs them down.

Are people really this bad? What am I missing? What is it I fail to see or understand about people and relationships?
The question of why women often reject "nice" guys has been asked, and answered, many times.

In short, women reject "nice" guys when they sense their niceness is an act, when it is a passive-aggressive ploy to get laid. Many so-called nice guys also have a strong sense of entitlement. They think women basically owe it to them to find them attractive just because they are so "nice."
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