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Old 04-21-2013, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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3.6 / 6.8 = 52%.

But that's the point - you can't compare the number of marriages and divorces in a given year and think that this is what gives you the divorce rate.

 
Old 04-21-2013, 04:33 PM
 
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Except it was 75% when they stopped providing data, which was what I said. I did not talk about what it is today.

What are you providing is not state data. It is a survey done by the US government.

And nowhere is this compared to the marriage rate, which is lower in California. How can you make a conclusion before you even have done the calculations.
Once again your conspiracy theory doesn't hold water.
NVSS - Marriages and Divorces
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Information on the total numbers and rates of marriages and divorces at the national and State levels are published in the NCHS National Vital Statistics Reports. The collection of detailed data was suspended beginning in January 1996. Limitations in the information collected by the States as well as budgetary considerations necessitated this action. The most recent comprehensive analyses of detailed marriage and divorce data are published in Advance Report of Final Marriage Statistics, 1989-90 and Advance Report of Final Divorce Statistics, 1989-90.
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3.6 / 6.8 = 52%.


And?
That is not supporting your argument which claims it has been declining.
except that is 6.8 per 1000. Your math skills are lacking. The other logical fallacy you display is that the number of people who marry vs those who divorce in a year are not the same sets of data. Meaning, if you cannot accuratly assume that marriage/divorce for a year is an accurate comparrison. Causation does not equal correlation.
 
Old 04-21-2013, 04:33 PM
 
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There was a thread a while back talking about divorces in liberal families being lower then those in evangelical churches.
The difference is that you use nominal divorce rates which does not take into account the massive differences in marriage rate. What if marriage rate was 1.0, an divorce rate was 0.9. That is not a low divorce rate even though 3.6 is much higher than 0.9. That means over time 90% of marriages end in divorce.

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While there may be few marriages, it seems that those who do marry are in it for the long haul and seem to be more stable.
Your data only talk about divorce rate without relation to the number of marriages, hence you just made a conclusion that you are unable to support.

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There are other studies that indicate that marrying later in life and higher degree of education are other factors that lead to longer marriages or those less likely to divorce.
Yep, there are many studies that indicates it is good to marry after 25, not 35.
 
Old 04-21-2013, 04:35 PM
 
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Once again your conspiracy theory doesn't hold water.
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except that is 6.8 per 1000. Your math skills are lacking.
Your posts are pathetically bad. First off the nominal divorce rate is 3.6, not 6.8.

Secondly, what is more interesting is how many marriages end in divorce. Not just how many divorces are there. That says nothing about how likely a marriage is to succeed.
 
Old 04-21-2013, 04:37 PM
 
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Your posts are pathetically bad. First off the nominal divorce rate is 3.6, not 6.8.

Secondly, what is more interesting is how many marriages end in divorce. Not just how many divorces are there. That says nothing about how likely a marriage is to succeed.
So all you can do is attack my posts? That is patetic. That is another logical fallacy that you've displayed. . Sorry attacking me or my posts makes your point all the weaker.

whether it is 3.6 or 6.8 you cannot divide your numbers to come up with a rate. That does not paint an accurate picture.
 
Old 04-21-2013, 04:40 PM
 
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But that's the point - you can't compare the number of marriages and divorces in a given year and think that this is what gives you the divorce rate.
It is the best comparison we have without looking at marriages and correlating them for age, which requires a lot of work.

It is a million times better than just looking at crude divorce rate without even looking at marriage rates. I can ask you, what would you prefer if you are concerned with keeping divorce rates low?

8.0 marriages, 2.0 divorces
2.0 marriages, 1.5 divorces
 
Old 04-21-2013, 04:41 PM
 
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So all you can do is attack my posts? That is patetic. That is another logical fallacy that you've displayed. . Sorry attacking me or my posts makes your point all the weaker.
You have repeatedly posted personal attacks, and when I give you a little bit of your own medicine then you start crying.

Your post was pathetic. Next time think before you write.
 
Old 04-21-2013, 04:41 PM
 
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It is the best comparison we have without looking at marriages and correlating them for age, which requires a lot of work.

It is a million times better than just looking at crude divorce rate without even looking at marriage rates. I can ask you, what would you prefer if you are concerned with keeping divorce rates low?

8.0 marriages, 2.0 divorces
2.0 marriages, 1.5 divorces
The only way that you even be accurate is an assumtion of a year long marriage. Which is rarely the case. The percent you assert can't be accuraly computed.
 
Old 04-21-2013, 04:43 PM
 
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You have repeatedly posted personal attacks, and when I give you a little bit of your own medicine then you start crying.

Your post was pathetic. Next time think before you write.
Really? Oooooh. I am shaking. Honestly, that makes you look pathetic. Whatever.
 
Old 04-21-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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The only way that you even be accurate is an assumtion of a year long marriage. Which is rarely the case. The percent you assert can't be accuraly computed.
Except I gave a graph of the last 60 years. In the long term a 50% divorce rate leads to 50% failed marriages.

But answer this question. Which place have more failed marriages?
Place A: 8.0 marriages, 2.0 divorces
Place B: 2.0 marriages, 1.5 divorces
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