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And i'm only remarking on the way things work from what I've seen. Betas have worth in the non-dating world, and I suppose as providers
You do realize that my posts aren't only talking about your posts. People are talking about how unattractive men aren't given a chance no matter how good their personality is. So - who is not giving them a chance? That's my point.
There you go again. Betas. Oh, I suppose they aren't totally worthless. They can be providers. Blah blah blah. Why say stuff like that? Why put others down like that? The world is made up of all types of people - and somehow, most of them seem to find love at least once. Among my closest friends, we've never been attracted to the same guy. Not even close.
So, how attractive are all these women that you are basing this on?
People who are looking for happiness in a relationship look for the total package. I know guys that are not good looking who are in wonderful relationships. The two shorter guys that I dated are both happily married to attractive women that are taller than them. If you focus on the negative - that's all you'll see.
Oh god. The whole rainbow.
I knew this guy. My friend's friend who used to hang out with us. He'd call us when we were at the bar and ask if we had any women with us. Then, he'd come by without saying hi, pass by, see how attractive the women were, and if they were unattractive, he'd just go home.
And a couple of the international girls I knew were sweating him. And these were average, nice, kind girls. I was like OMFG, talk about picking looks over any kind of character. Not that I would expect that they would just get with me, but I had some other guys friends at the time they totally ignored. Keep that in mind. I'm not even talking about the b@tches. I expect that from them.
Of course, then I do remember my buddy's wife used to detest that same guy. But still. It is really shocking to me how looks control so much. Never would have said that when I was 20 years old.
You do realize that my posts aren't only talking about your posts. People are talking about how unattractive men aren't given a chance no matter how good their personality is. So - who is not giving them a chance? That's my point.
There you go again. Betas. Oh, I suppose they aren't totally worthless. They can be providers. Blah blah blah. Why say stuff like that? Why put others down like that? The world is made up of all types of people - and somehow, most of them seem to find love at least once. Among my closest friends, we've never been attracted to the same guy. Not even close.
They're not given a chance based on sexual attraction, so they establish their worth in other ways by providing. What I find interesting is the difference between what you say and what I see happen in real life, so maybe you're just the exception or what, I dont know. The same guys I know tally up one night stands every weekend, all look similar and act similar. The same guys who go home dejected all the time. The majority of guys with girlfriends looking above average while most of the alone guys are below average, some of them try to compensate by being super nice which inevitably fails. It's not a hard, fast rule and there's always exceptions, but it's what I see time and again.
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Originally Posted by FreedomForMorsi
Also, for guys who use terms like "beta", "alpha" and "PUA", please grow a pair of balls.
I don't know why you're bringing up PUA, alpha & beta are used in describing the animal kingdom as well
I knew this guy. My friend's friend who used to hang out with us. He'd call us when we were at the bar and ask if we had any women with us. Then, he'd come by without saying hi, pass by, see how attractive the women were, and if they were unattractive, he'd just go home.
And a couple of the international girls I knew were sweating him. And these were average, nice, kind girls. I was like OMFG, talk about picking looks over any kind of character. Not that I would expect that they would just get with me, but I had some other guys friends at the time they totally ignored. Keep that in mind. I'm not even talking about the b@tches. I expect that from them.
Of course, then I do remember my buddy's wife used to detest that same guy. But still. It is really shocking to me how looks control so much. Never would have said that when I was 20 years old.
How old are you? You do realize that people are generally much more superficial when they are in high school and college than they are later in life - right? When I was a girl - and I mean like 10, 12 years old - I loved the book and the movies of Little Women. But I hated that Jo ended up with the ugly, old professor instead of the dashing, young Laurie. When I got older, I thought the professor was a much more desirable character than Laurie was - and I would have picked him as well. And I know that people on here like to make this out like "women only want the bad boys until their looks are gone and then they want the nice guy to take care of them." But I don't think that's it. Honestly, I just think that younger people don't have the emotional depth that they have when they get older. When you are younger - you judge a book by its cover. When you get older - you want to actually read the book.
They're not given a chance based on sexual attraction, so they establish their worth in other ways by providing. What I find interesting is the difference between what you say and what I see happen in real life, so maybe you're just the exception or what, I dont know. The same guys I know tally up one night stands every weekend, all look similar and act similar. The same guys who go home dejected all the time. The majority of guys with girlfriends looking above average while most of the alone guys are below average, some of them try to compensate by being super nice which inevitably fails. It's not a hard, fast rule and there's always exceptions, but it's what I see time and again.
How old are you? How old are the people you are hanging out with? What kind of social circle do you keep? These things make a big difference.
How old are you? How old are the people you are hanging out with? What kind of social circle do you keep? These things make a big difference.
21 and social circle is all around 18-24
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