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It's a defense mechanism to protect the ego by projecting negative moral values on more successful guys. So unless being judgemental and envious are nice guy qualities, they're phony. I cringe every time a guy complains about being a nice guy who's never given a chance, because he comes across as extremely emasculating and sad.
Nice guys tend to be creeps, of a worse sort than the jerks they see hitting on women. It takes men years to work themselves out of this phase, and it tends to be helped along by equally screwy parents.
This. A girl is not obligated to do anything for you.
Also, I know this how? Because for years, I've been following just this example. Now, I kinda know better intellectually, but emotionally, I still end up doing this, like it or not. I'd rather suicide myself than put another girl through this. But then she'd prob think I was being manipulative and doing it because she won't sleep with me. I hate my life.
Nice guys tend to be creeps, of a worse sort than the jerks they see hitting on women. It takes men years to work themselves out of this phase, and it tends to be helped along by equally screwy parents.
This. A girl is not obligated to do anything for you.
First step is realizing that being a doormat will get them nowhere.
It's a defense mechanism to protect the ego by projecting negative moral values on more successful guys. So unless being judgemental and envious are nice guy qualities, they're phony. I cringe every time a guy complains about being a nice guy who's never given a chance, because he comes across as extremely emasculating and sad.
The proper term for these guys is beta.
It is somewhat true.
Since most of what women choose is based on looks, a very handsome nice guy will have no problems. Those guys are often taken though, so women will date good looking jerks. That's where you get the nice guys finish last part. Also, handsome men will tend to mistreat women because they have so many options. Whereas an average looking guy might stay faithful. So, you could be referring to nice in that sense.
Nice is such a broad word.
I do think uglier people are in general 'slightly' better people in the sense that they are usually more modest and have been kicked around and rejected a bit. So, they have more sympathy and generally are less judgmental.
Since most of what women choose is based on looks, a very handsome nice guy will have no problems. Those guys are often taken though, so women will date good looking jerks. That's where you get the nice guys finish last part. Also, handsome men will tend to mistreat women because they have so many options. Whereas an average looking guy might stay faithful. So, you could be referring to nice in that sense.
Nice is such a broad word.
I do think uglier people are in general 'slightly' better people in the sense that they are usually more modest and have been kicked around and rejected a bit. So, they have more sympathy and generally are less judgmental.
I'm not sure I agree with that actually. Many ugly people are very bitter with the world and take it out, especially on more beautiful people they see as a threat. I see this especially often with women.
Maybe it doesn't apply the same to guys though. There's a lot of variance, some beautiful people carry it with grace while others act superior. Nice guys almost always tend to be lacking in masculinity and not very sexually attractive though, why they develop the complex in the first place
There are truly nice guys, but there niceness has no bearing on their attractiveness to women.
Good-looking nice guy = attractive
Good-looking d-bag = attractive
Bad-looking nice guy = unattractive
Bad-looking d-bag = unattractive
For some reason there has been this myth perpetuated that a guy who isn't looking can adopt the attitude of a good-looking d-bag, exhibit "alpha" behavior or whatever, and that'll make him attractive to women.
There are truly nice guys, but there niceness has no bearing on their attractiveness to women.
Good-looking nice guy = attractive
Good-looking d-bag = attractive
Bad-looking nice guy = unattractive
Bad-looking d-bag = unattractive
For some reason there has been this myth perpetuated that a guy who isn't looking can adopt the attitude of a good-looking d-bag, exhibit "alpha" behavior or whatever, and that'll make him attractive to women.
Yeah those guys are simply labeled creeps.
Personality is bull****. If your looks don't support your personality, society will essentially tell you your personality is not acceptable based on the way you look, and you'll be forced to adapt a meek and invisible position in society. That's the life of a beta....
My husband is a nice guy. I met him and thought...he's so nice. I snapped him up really fast and have no intention of letting him go. My sister told me she wouldn't date him because he was too nice. She is on her 2nd marriage.
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My sister told me she wouldn't date him because he was too nice. She is on her 2nd marriage.
