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The reality is after 21 or college graduation it is exponentially more difficult to get attention from the opposite sex in Western societies outside of work. And now with over-zealous MeToo hyper-sensitive standards Men no longer can try the workplace. The gym is generally off limits in major cities and most Women don't take Men seriously at the club or bar. Where exactly is he supposed to meet a Woman?
As with many other things in this society which are just plain dysfunctional and broken, dating is just another thing. OP is probably long gone but to those in a similar circumstance my advice is to stack cash, retire early and move abroad. In the meanwhile to get your sexual needs met, there is DR, Tijuana which is only about 4 hours away from most U.S. cities at most.
Don't forget that the option to meet women on craigslist is gone too
The reality is after 21 or college graduation it is exponentially more difficult to get attention from the opposite sex in Western societies outside of work.
Not it's not. You can match or meet up with a hideous or obese person looking for love any day of the week.
What's hard is meeting ATTRACTIVE people. Not only are they rarely single, but they have short attention spans and an endless choice of dating partners so they can be as picky/patient as they want.
So it takes thousands of matches and several years to just find a person you believe is attractive enough to want to be with for the rest of your life, and that's not even going over their personality which could also be a deal breaker.
When I scroll through tinder and bumble, hell, anyone can swipe right on all the attractive people. But there's a low chance they'll swipe right on you, even lower chance they'll message you, even lower chance you'll get a first date, even lower chance you get a 2nd date.
If a man wants attention from attractive members of the opposite sex in western society, he better be 6'4" with some money. Because it takes an insane amount of effort for the average man to find a date with a decent person.
Not it's not. You can match or meet up with a hideous or obese person looking for love any day of the week.
What's hard is meeting ATTRACTIVE people. Not only are they rarely single, but they have short attention spans and an endless choice of dating partners so they can be as picky/patient as they want.
So it takes thousands of matches and several years to just find a person you believe is attractive enough to want to be with for the rest of your life, and that's not even going over their personality which could also be a deal breaker.
When I scroll through tinder and bumble, hell, anyone can swipe right on all the attractive people. But there's a low chance they'll swipe right on you, even lower chance they'll message you, even lower chance you'll get a first date, even lower chance you get a 2nd date.
If a man wants attention from attractive members of the opposite sex in western society, he better be 6'4" with some money. Because it takes an insane amount of effort for the average man to find a date with a decent person.
I don't really agree with either of you...
I'm 26 and went out with three attractive girls/women in the last several months (and a couple others who were so-so). Met none of them on dating sites. Four I met at Meetups, one I met randomly online.
If you have any game at all, it's really easy to get dates by going to Meetups.
I'm 6', don't work out at all, and have almost no money.
I'm 26 and went out with three attractive girls/women in the last several months (and a couple others who were so-so). Met none of them on dating sites. Four I met at Meetups, one I met randomly online.
If you have any game at all, it's really easy to get dates by going to Meetups.
I'm 6', don't work out at all, and have almost no money.
Not it's not. You can match or meet up with a hideous or obese person looking for love any day of the week.
What's hard is meeting ATTRACTIVE people. Not only are they rarely single, but they have short attention spans and an endless choice of dating partners so they can be as picky/patient as they want.
So it takes thousands of matches and several years to just find a person you believe is attractive enough to want to be with for the rest of your life, and that's not even going over their personality which could also be a deal breaker.
When I scroll through tinder and bumble, hell, anyone can swipe right on all the attractive people. But there's a low chance they'll swipe right on you, even lower chance they'll message you, even lower chance you'll get a first date, even lower chance you get a 2nd date.
If a man wants attention from attractive members of the opposite sex in western society, he better be 6'4" with some money. Because it takes an insane amount of effort for the average man to find a date with a decent person.
I'm currently in a relationship, but for me, I always got a lot of 1st dates from dating apps. Rarely a 2nd date or beyond, though.
I'm 26 and went out with three attractive girls/women in the last several months (and a couple others who were so-so). Met none of them on dating sites. Four I met at Meetups, one I met randomly online.
If you have any game at all, it's really easy to get dates by going to Meetups.
I'm 6', don't work out at all, and have almost no money.
Define 'Game' as to me it's a highly subjective concept.
And if you are skinny fat with no money and getting at least one date per month on meetup you either have an above average face, live in an area where the average guy doesn't clean up well (or can't be bothered at all with it) or the Women you perceive as attractive are actually not so much.
No average Joe gets by with minimal effort these days. Not with reality TV and social media warping expectations.
Define 'Game' as to me it's a highly subjective concept.
And if you are skinny fat with no money and getting at least one date per month on meetup you either have an above average face, live in an area where the average guy doesn't clean up well (or can't be bothered at all with it) or the Women you perceive as attractive are actually not so much.
No average Joe gets by with minimal effort these days. Not with reality TV and social media warping expectations.
I weigh 140 lbs and live in the bay area where single guys outnumber single girls 2:1.
By game I just mean knowing how to hold a conversation.
My point is just that your perception of the dating world doesn't line up at all with my experience. If you put yourself out there and can hold a conversation it's not hard to get dates.
I weigh 140 lbs and live in the bay area where single guys outnumber single girls 2:1.
By game I just mean knowing how to hold a conversation.
My point is just that your perception of the dating world doesn't line up at all with my experience. If you put yourself out there and can hold a conversation it's not hard to get dates.
Well, when you run into women that say, "I'm seeing someone right now" or "I'm not looking to date at the moment". Well, the buck stops there until you get a "Yes"
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