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We were having an okay conversation and I bring up that I'm a mgtow and everyone gets senile, why? You don't have to be a mgtow to realise you won't be successful in relationships.
Oh come on, no it isn't. Poets, playrights, etc have been writing about love and romance as far back as we can record, far before Romeo and Juliet which was 450 years ago. 50-60 years my azz.
The vast majority of people did not marry for those reasons though.
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Um ... 50-60 years ago was 1957 - 1967.
Just think before you type, son.
Um....people did get married out of duty (more so than love) up until that time (pre-sexual revolution).
Know your history, son.
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If you want to change from being single to married, my first suggestion is to lose the notion that men have to work hard for it while women just have to exist. It takes effort on both genders to make it happen.
When I was successfully dating, I did so because I went out and made it happen. I don't see how not being proactive and putting in work will lead to marriage.
And I'm not really sure what you mean. Women don't need to do any work. That's a fact....unless you count putting on makeup and rejecting guys for minor reasons as work.
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Well, there ya go... this is one example / scenario of why and how things become messed up, due to the mindsets of the parties involved and there is a lot of this to go around. Then we wonder why there are many with problems, all stemming from early life experiences that one is thrown into, by adults who should have examined their own lives and motives, first.
As long as two people get along and makes things work, everything will be fine. You do realize that people almost never married for love until a couple of generations ago, right?
And, yet, humanity has perpetuated for this long. So.....
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Uh, it sounds like you just want to get something from a vending machine... too bad you cannot get what you want from a mannequin, since it seems that is what you want. And what about setting the tone for family life and being a positive role model for children?
I plan to be the patriarch of my family. That is being a positive role model.
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He's probably thinking of marrying for love. Of course love has been around for millennia, but not everyone was fortunate to marry their love(s). People of his ilk see the "institution" of marriage, in the Western sense, as nothing more than fulfilling a duty or obligation. It serves a singular purpose: having and raising children under specific principles. Love just isn't a factor here, or it is simply re-interpreted as duty and principles.
I'll pass.
Marrying for love and passion is very modern and female-driven. I would definitely not call this being "lucky".
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DistinguishedGentleman is not very distinguished. You should see the look of shock on my face.
If by "not very distinguished", you mean "not a feminist", then I'll take that as a compliment.
When I did try with relationships I gave it all I had but I always crashed, if life really gives you lessons than im failing the class. I didn't like how my heart was ripped out for believing in me.
But "people" in general did not do that in the years you cited. You're just wrong. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm not wrong. You are.
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When I did try with relationships I gave it all I had but I always crashed, if life really gives you lessons than im failing the class. I didn't like how my heart was ripped out for believing in me.
Many women can be very cruel. Don't let their actions get to you. Don't take it personally. I really mean that. My dating life turned around when I stopped expecting them to act right.
Many women can be very cruel. Don't let their actions get to you. Don't take it personally. I really mean that. My dating life turned around when I stopped expecting them to act right.
My failure in relationships wasn't women's fault, it was mines for trying to be something I'm not and I realize that now.
If by "not very distinguished", you mean "not a feminist", then I'll take that as a compliment.
No, I believe she meant not distinguished, not much of a gentleman either. If by not being a feminist you mean you don't believe women are equal, that's not something you would have to announce. It's coming through loud and clear, even to us girls.
Good luck with your dating life.
Maybe hang out at an institution and see if you can "woo" one.
You're honest and able to learn. There's hope for you!
When I said being something I'm not, I meant relationship material.
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