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Old 01-04-2014, 07:52 PM
 
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Honestly I am angry at the OP's wife why she is doing this to herself. I guess well scratch that, she DEFINITELY married, no genuinely loved a wrong man. It is just so tragic. I hope the OP's wife wakes up from her own mistake. If she really is beautiful and intelligent, what a waste on who she is spending it to. Tragic waste I honestly just wanna shake and slap her to frigging wake up woman! Gosh. That's all. Really feel sorry for her very sorry. You never deserved her, OP.

 
Old 01-04-2014, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Rome, Italy
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God, being called a sociopath because I decided to separate? I decided to be honest with myself that I was never a good husband and stop living in a lie...and I'm a sociopath? I thought I was doing her a favour.
 
Old 01-04-2014, 07:56 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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They all speak to me, they all visit me, I visit them and I forced myself to always greet them with a hug now (you never know what can I happen). My grandchildren are all over me when I'm around. I would say we all get along very well.

Why would they disrespect me for finally taking action and putting an end to a sham marriage?
Do your sons not know you cheated on and stole from their mother, or did you teach them that's just how men treat women?
 
Old 01-04-2014, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Rome, Italy
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Do your sons not know you cheated on and stole from their mother, or did you teach them that's just how men treat women?
I didn't steal anyone, I protected myself. If she wanted to divorce tomorrow, I would give her half but I had to take precautionary actions after so many divorce horror stories.

Of course they know I've been with other women, I told them myself. They always knew our marriage wasn't right, children are the best observers.

I didn't teach them anything, their personal lives are theirs, I don't interfere with them.
 
Old 01-04-2014, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Rome, Italy
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Honestly I am angry at the OP's wife why she is doing this to herself. I guess well scratch that, she DEFINITELY married, no genuinely loved a wrong man. It is just so tragic. I hope the OP's wife wakes up from her own mistake. If she really is beautiful and intelligent, what a waste on who she is spending it to. Tragic waste I honestly just wanna shake and slap her to frigging wake up woman! Gosh. That's all. Really feel sorry for her very sorry. You never deserved her, OP.
I will try to make her wake up this week. We could solve this fairly well. We either divorce amicably or we stay separated but she stops acting like I'm her husband. She's still good looking for her age and very knowledgeable about many topics, I'm sure she could attract another man if she wanted to.

I know I didn't deserve her and have already apologised to her. It isn't worth much, I know.
 
Old 01-04-2014, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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They all speak to me, they all visit me, I visit them and I forced myself to always greet them with a hug now (you never know what can I happen). My grandchildren are all over me when I'm around. I would say we all get along very well.

Why would they disrespect me for finally taking action and putting an end to a sham marriage?
It's always possible they are as cold and dispassionate as you, but if they are at all close to their mom they are more than likely just tolerating you with much pity at this point for her sake - and because they are better men than you.
 
Old 01-04-2014, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Rome, Italy
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It's always possible they are as cold and dispassionate as you, but if they are at all close to their mom they are more than likely just tolerating you with much pity at this point for her sake - and because they are better men than you.
They are better men than I am, I've no doubt on that. They are all very close to their mother (and I'm glad they are, they owe her much) but your doubts could only be answered by them. I think I know them well enough to know they are being sincere with me.

Cold? I'm trying to make things right for the first time since we married. I want to reason with her so she can move on with her life.
 
Old 01-04-2014, 08:16 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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I didn't steal anyone, I protected myself. If she wanted to divorce tomorrow, I would give her half but I had to take precautionary actions after so many divorce horror stories.
Oh, you'd give her half of the money you stashed? It sounded like you said you deliberately hid it and assigned your brother to make sure she never got any. I must have misunderstood.

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Of course they know I've been with other women, I told them myself. They always knew our marriage wasn't right, children are the best observers.

I didn't teach them anything, their personal lives are theirs, I don't interfere with them.
Of course you taught them--by example. It sounds like you've started on the next generation too.
 
Old 01-04-2014, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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They are better men than I am, I've no doubt on that. They are all very close to their mother (and I'm glad they are, they owe her much) but your doubts could only be answered by them. I think I know them well enough to know they are being sincere with me.

Cold? I'm trying to make things right for the first time since we married. I want to reason with her so she can move on with her life.
uh huh
 
Old 01-04-2014, 08:18 PM
 
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Guys like our OP end up realizing far too late that they are dying alone with no one there to really care - it's very sad actually.
For him to die alone would be too easy. I am not one for revenge. However, this SOB would deserve to suffer. I have no use for anyone this self absorbed and selfish.
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