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Those on this forum that I have shared more personal details of my life know that I don't care much for my sleeping around. If I had found the right woman for me early on and been with her I would have most likely settled down. I am just taking the opportunities that come to me, why should I deny myself something that everyone else is also taking advantage of?
Indeed, why hold back when all the lemmings are running for the edge of the cliff? Why hold yourself to your own standards? Might as well join in with all the people whose behavior disillusions you and leads you to feel that society is going down the drain.
Indeed, why hold back when all the lemmings are running for the edge of the cliff? Why hold yourself to your own standards? Might as well join in with all the people whose behavior disillusions you and leads you to feel that society is going down the drain.
Have fun on your way down!
You know what I just realized, you guys all hate this double standard about guys being valued the more they sleep around and women shamed. The ironic thing is on CD everything is backwards.
Not surprised though considering most of the posters in this section are females with only a few males sprinkled in between.
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Hoopla, you may better want to find an escape route ...
LOL that's not pragmatism or truth. That is blind faith in a self-professed ideology that borders on religious fanaticism. Unfalsifiable conjecturing that passes itself off as truth ad-hoc. Psuedotruth. Pseudoscience.
This is not perception. This is undeniable fact, based on sound reasoning and irrefutable evidence. Evidence that is well documented for all to see.
Still doesn't answer my question. What's so awful about your peen that if you put it in a woman on the first date, she becomes unworthy of love and affection? Why do you feel you are tainting a woman by having sex with her early?
I just don't want a woman with no self control and if she slept with me so quickly how many others has she slept with? Although, not an exact indicator to me it's accurate enough to make me start thinking that maybe this woman is not for me. How much do you really know a person after the first date? Feels more like a one night stand to me at least.
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And not for nothing, but you can't tell someone's numbers by how soon she sleeps with you, or how long she waits. My ex-hub and I waited until the third date. Our numbers were very different. Mine were much higher than his. I know plenty of women with low numbers who also went ahead and had sex on the first date, and a couple of them married the guy they had sex on the first date with.
I am aware of the outliers, I had girl make me wait until the 5th date and she had some high numbers.
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You want to talk about being on the same footing, do you think women don't talk about man-hoes? Where I used to work, the office zlut was a man. We used to call him Dirty Dick, because it was assumed that any woman who got with him would come away from the experience with an STD. He was irresponsible, and he'd sleep around while he was living with a woman and not use condoms. Just an all-around jerk who didn't care about anyone but himself, and his actions showed it.
Off course they do, I had to do some reputation cleaning because my girl friends were reluctant to hook me up with their friends because they were afraid I would just break their hearts(I do most of the breaking up(you know why). Reputation has much improved the last two months though to the point my girl friends actively help my dating life.
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The truth of the matter is that life is not as black-and-white as you want it to be. Every person is an individual, and every relationship is unique.
I acknowledge this...
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And not for nothing, but what you see as societal decay, a lot of people see as progress. Shaming people for having sex is a waste of time because sex and sexuality are natural things and they comprise only one facet of the human experience. There's more to life and a person than that.
Well perhaps you should send the memo to some of the people who frown on my own sex life. In any case I don't care much for what others are doing though so I am not into the whole **** shaming. Although, I have my own personal views about it just reflects in my dating choices.
You know what I just realized, you guys all hate this double standard about guys being valued the more they sleep around and women shamed. The ironic thing is on CD everything is backwards.
Not surprised though considering most of the posters in this section are females with only a few males sprinkled in between.
Not my style!
Dude, you can't be serious! Don't you see how you're kinda messed up? You hate society and your generation for doing exactly what you do. I guess that means that on some level, you hate yourself? That's messed up, man. I don't know whether to laugh at the absurdity of your posts, or feel sorry for you, for your messed-up-ness. I'm just gonna chalk this up to some kind of HS bravado. Someday you'll grow up, or somebody will give you a wake-up call, and you'll see how nonsensical you sound.
You know what I just realized, you guys all hate this double standard about guys being valued the more they sleep around and women shamed. The ironic thing is on CD everything is backwards.
Not surprised though considering most of the posters in this section are females with only a few males sprinkled in between.
Not my style!
I may be the only female alive who is somewhat accepting of the double standard, provided that the man wasn't jumping in bed with everyone he could. I can accept that many men might not be willing to get into a committed relationship without a test ride, more than I can a female. And yes, I do think that females have more "value" when they are much more selective in the number of men they have sex with. But I only have to worry about myself, not any other females, since I am not a lesbian. And I only have to be concerned about the men I date and not any others. The rest of the universe has no bearing on me, personally.
Dude, you can't be serious! Don't you see how you're kinda messed up? You hate society and your generation for doing exactly what you do. I guess that means that on some level, you hate yourself? That's messed up, man. I don't know whether to laugh at the absurdity of your posts, or feel sorry for you, for your messed-up-ness. I'm just gonna chalk this up to some kind of HS bravado. Someday you'll grow up, or somebody will give you a wake-up call, and you'll see how nonsensical you sound.
More holier than thou nonsense! Yes, because all of you are perfectly playing it straight. I don't care what others think but I enjoy the fact you all are dishonest with yourself think you are perfect beings playing it straight. Everyone lies and everyone is a hypocrite when it comes down to it.
I accept myself how I am, and that is all that matters.
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I may be the only female alive who is somewhat accepting of the double standard, provided that the man wasn't jumping in bed with everyone he could. I can accept that many men might not be willing to get into a committed relationship without a test ride, more than I can a female. And yes, I do think that females have more "value" when they are much more selective in the number of men they have sex with. But I only have to worry about myself, not any other females, since I am not a lesbian. And I only have to be concerned about the men I date and not any others. The rest of the universe has no bearing on me, personally.
I think it has more to do with the woman's demeanor then how soon she has sex. I don't like calling any woman a "****" but I also know some women are sluts (as are some men to be fair) I've slept with women on the first date that I viewed as totally wholesome good hearted women that I could see a life with early on and others waited until the 3rd or 4th date, that I felt like would screw a camel if given the chance.
Some women just know how to be classy and carry themselves and some don't. It's really that simple.
I just don't want a woman with no self control and if she slept with me so quickly how many others has she slept with? Although, not an exact indicator to me it's accurate enough to make me start thinking that maybe this woman is not for me. How much do you really know a person after the first date? Feels more like a one night stand to me at least.
I am aware of the outliers, I had girl make me wait until the 5th date and she had some high numbers.
Off course they do, I had to do some reputation cleaning because my girl friends were reluctant to hook me up with their friends because they were afraid I would just break their hearts(I do most of the breaking up(you know why). Reputation has much improved the last two months though to the point my girl friends actively help my dating life.
I acknowledge this...
Well perhaps you should send the memo to some of the people who frown on my own sex life. In any case I don't care much for what others are doing though so I am not into the whole **** shaming. Although, I have my own personal views about it just reflects in my dating choices.
Ah HA! See, I don't know why men don't just assume they are just that irresistible that a woman can't help herself but to succumb to their charms. Isn't that what every guy wants, the woman who gets so knocked out by him that she'll be all, "Hell yeah, let's get busy!"
Maybe the women who have slept with you on the first date didn't know how to make a man feel special. Sounds hokey, but there it is. There are ways to get the point across that it's not about morality, or self-control, or even the sex itself, but the guy in question. Maybe they were using you, and you picked up on it. It happens. I will admit that although us old farts had our fun, hook-up culture nowadays seems a lot colder than it did in the 80s, or even 90s.
Which I'm sure can spin off into a thread about the impact of technology, internet porn, and what people expect of one another in the bedroom, but I'll refrain from a dissertation. Suffice it to say that we had to work a little harder at finding and connecting with people than today's 20-somethings. It took a little more effort, and it took thinking on your feet in person, in real time, so if you were lucky enough to get some early on, you appreciated it and ran with it because there weren't 15 more waiting on a smart phone or an OLD service.
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