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Old 09-05-2014, 12:27 PM
 
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Slowly over the years, something has been causing me to rot emotionally. It honestly feels like something has its claws sunk into my flesh and I can't get away from it so I have lately been reaching out for help before I COMPLETELY lose all my emotions and niceness. I have very little left in me which I am trying hard to save because I know it is who I really am. I understand that I am inferior/undesirable to most women and I'm trying to be who they want me to be but I cannot betray myself so I'm sticking to being me and letting go of the fact that no one is coming. Look out world, you have another trashy, wacko old man in the future to deal with!!
OK, you need to start interviewing counselors STAT. Interview at least 4 before you choose one.

I recommend you stop posting online unless it is to discuss why you are not in counseling, and to ask for help in overcoming any obstacles to seeking therapy. Anything else is a waste of your time.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:31 PM
 
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All of your comments and advice is very helpful. I honestly did not think that many people would respond to me.LOL. Anyway, I have a good way of putting how I'm feeling now days. I'm actually a emotional, want to be romantic, nice guy. Genuinely. Slowly over the years, something has been causing me to rot emotionally. It honestly feels like something has its claws sunk into my flesh and I can't get away from it so I have lately been reaching out for help before I COMPLETELY lose all my emotions and niceness. I have very little left in me which I am trying hard to save because I know it is who I really am. I understand that I am inferior/undesirable to most women and I'm trying to be who they want me to be but I cannot betray myself so I'm sticking to being me and letting go of the fact that no one is coming. Look out world, you have another trashy, wacko old man in the future to deal with!! LOL. It is what it is. I sincerely appreciate each and every one of you guys/gals for your comments and advice. Thsnks
Jones is right. You won't get anywhere until you address the inner issue. Don't worry, with the right therapist, it won't take too long; a year or two, depending. Consider it an investment in yourself and your future. Good luck.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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Talk to people. Make friendly conversation.

My husband was always shy around women. He got dates, but that's because he is very chatty and friendly, even if he was a bit awkward at first. Yet he also knows how to listen. While not necessarily a trait PUA guys would endorse, there is more than one way to do things.

Once you build a bit of a rapport with a woman you find interesting, feel her out. Not literally, of course. Try to casually work into conversation things that she can respond to that may give you clues as to whether she is single or not. Then ask her for something simple, like coffee. Nothing elaborate.

While being overly chatty can be a negative trait, if nothing else works for you, it might be a way to go. Strike up conversations, but overall, try to do more listening than talking.
Yup, tried this already.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:49 PM
 
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OK, you need to start interviewing counselors STAT. Interview at least 4 before you choose one.

I recommend you stop posting online unless it is to discuss why you are not in counseling, and to ask for help in overcoming any obstacles to seeking therapy. Anything else is a waste of your time.
My issues are actually quite common amongst people. I mean, you're acting like I'm a lunatic or something. LOL
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:50 PM
 
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Yup, tried this already.
How many times? Did you try it once or twice and then give up? You have to keep trying, man.

I asked you an important question that you never really answered. Do you give up trying for other things you want in life, or do you keep trying? This is the same thing.
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Old 09-05-2014, 01:38 PM
 
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How many times? Did you try it once or twice and then give up? You have to keep trying, man.

I asked you an important question that you never really answered. Do you give up trying for other things you want in life, or do you keep trying? This is the same thing.
Maybe roughly 3 times. But to answer your question, heck no! LOL. I don't give up easy. That's how I became excellent at what I do for a living. Relationship/dating in the other hand.... I dunno. I'm starting to feel like a dog chasing its tail when it comes to that kind of stuff in my life.
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Old 09-05-2014, 01:41 PM
 
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My issues are actually quite common amongst people. I mean, you're acting like I'm a lunatic or something. LOL
You came here because you aren't happy and you know you have a problem. The fact that you laugh off Nila's excellent advice shows that you need professional therapy.

Either you want change or you just want to b*tch. Pick one.
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Old 09-05-2014, 01:57 PM
 
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Maybe roughly 3 times. But to answer your question, heck no! LOL. I don't give up easy. That's how I became excellent at what I do for a living. Relationship/dating in the other hand.... I dunno. I'm starting to feel like a dog chasing its tail when it comes to that kind of stuff in my life.
But it sounds like you haven't been trying that much. You said so yourself that you feel like you shouldn't even bother with talking to women anymore.

Guys who claim that they have never had bad luck with women are either super lucky and the exception to the rule, or full of poop. Same with women.

You just have to decide if you want to take the advice you've been given here and apply it, or if you'd rather be defeatist and not do anything at all.
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Old 09-05-2014, 02:05 PM
 
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My issues are actually quite common amongst people. I mean, you're acting like I'm a lunatic or something. LOL
No. Counseling is for normal, healthy people with common issues like yours. It is not for lunatics.

Do you also refuse to go to a dentist to get your teeth cleaned, or a doctor when you have strep throat?
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Old 09-05-2014, 03:16 PM
 
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I am going to take everyone's advice as it all was extremely helpful. Honestly. Especially CarbonCountyLiving. I like your personality.
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