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I've just heard lots of men say women want them to spend a lot of money. I haven't seen much of this, a few flowers, cards, etc. I don't see big money spent on Valentine's. It's not like Christmas.
Yeah, but those roses are jacked up to triple the price. You. Can go the cheap route and get from grocery stores but even so. By the time you bought the cheaper roses for $20, candy for $10, card for $5, you are in for $35. That's for the most basic thing for even a new relationship. Throw in dinner and maybe a movie and you're over $100. All because the man feels obligated to do it. I am not cheap but I find flowers to be the biggest waste of money. I hate buying the,pm. They are usually dead in a few days.
It is just a waste of money all around and men feel they must do it plus women do expect it for the most part.
I've just heard lots of men say women want them to spend a lot of money. I haven't seen much of this, a few flowers, cards, etc. I don't see big money spent on Valentine's. It's not like Christmas.
Didn't we just have a long thread about a guy who thought he was take advantage of when his date ordered am expensive dinner on Valentines Day?
Roses cards candy and dinner add up. All of them are premium on that day.
Didn't we just have a long thread about a guy who thought he was take advantage of when his date ordered am expensive dinner on Valentines Day?
Roses cards candy and dinner add up. All of them are premium on that day.
Yeah, we did, and he was a one hit wonder who refused to clarify one single question, so nobody knows exactly what happened, if it even did. He didn't say a thing about flowers or candy or a card, if I recall. Just a $50 dish from a menu at a place of his choosing.
Yeah, we did, and he was a one hit wonder who refused to clarify one single question, so nobody knows exactly what happened, if it even did. He didn't say a thing about flowers or candy or a card, if I recall. Just a $50 dish from a menu at a place of his choosing.
He wasn't the only one speaking..... And no matter how many people speak about it, it's easy to marginalize and dismiss them. Not exactly being open to discussion.... But never the less.. Flowers, dinner, roses, cards candy do add up and are a premium. Two of those, flowers and dinner are typically paid by the guy.... Two of the more expensive items on that list... Excluding any gifts. . And guys do loath it for a reason.
A big thumbs up to the ladies that make it a shared experience with their loved one.
He wasn't the only one speaking..... And no matter how many people speak about it, it's easy to marginalize and dismiss them. Not exactly being open to discussion.... But never the less.. Flowers, dinner, roses, cards candy do add up and are a premium. Two of those, flowers and dinner are typically paid by the guy.... Two of the more expensive items on that list... Excluding any gifts. . And guys do loath it for a reason.
This makes me wonder---and I mean it with all due respect: in same-sex relationships, with two men or two women, which partner shoulders greater responsibility for providing Valentine's Day presents? While we're at it, which partner ends up in the doghouse for failing to do so?
Edited to add: Come to think of it, this sounds an awful lot like a Seinfeld line by George Costanza: "If you and Susan were to dance, how do you decide who leads?"
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This makes me wonder---and I mean it with all due respect: in same-sex relationships, with two men or two women, which partner shoulders greater responsibility for providing Valentine's Day presents? While we're at it, which partner ends up in the doghouse for failing to do so?
Edited to add: Come to think of it, this sounds an awful lot like a Seinfeld line by George Costanza: "If you and Susan were to dance, how do you decide who leads?"
Sometimes it seems like men take more heat for deviating from gender roles than women do.
This makes me wonder---and I mean it with all due respect: in same-sex relationships, with two men or two women, which partner shoulders greater responsibility for providing Valentine's Day presents? While we're at it, which partner ends up in the doghouse for failing to do so?
Edited to add: Come to think of it, this sounds an awful lot like a Seinfeld line by George Costanza: "If you and Susan were to dance, how do you decide who leads?"
Maybe like many, many hetero couples, they don't keep tabs but just celebrate together the way they both like to, and nobody whips out a receipt to see whether somebody spent $2.50 more on the chocolates or movie tickets? Or on whether it was harder to cook the rosemary potatoes or the steak for couple who celebrate by a romantic eat-in dinner?
Most relationships don't come with Excel spreadsheets. You just....do stuff for one another. And enjoy that stuff together.
This makes me wonder---and I mean it with all due respect: in same-sex relationships, with two men or two women, which partner shoulders greater responsibility for providing Valentine's Day presents? While we're at it, which partner ends up in the doghouse for failing to do so?
Edited to add: Come to think of it, this sounds an awful lot like a Seinfeld line by George Costanza: "If you and Susan were to dance, how do you decide who leads?"
MIL and her partner are the only same sex couple I really have any in depth knowledge in regards to the dynamics of a same sex relationship. There are no preconceived gender roles when it comes to them....at least that I can tell. Everything is defined by them... As far as I know, they don't do any thing for Valentines.
Their Anniversary is celebrated and seems to be the holiday to show their love and affection for each other.
One does take the dominant role in thr relationship while the other, my wife's mother, is the more passive one... Not that is a bad thing... It's just what works for them. Considering that she was previously married in a very conservative household and she only came out later in life, and had a daughter during that time, I think she is comfortable in that role.
Her partner has always lived independently working her own farm and raising horses. She is the dominant one in their relationship in part due to her strong willed and independent personality.
And when I say dominant and passive... I it's only slightly only noticeable to those who spent a significant time with them. Both seem to have equal say so in decisions.
Of course this is just one couple and really has no baring on the general.
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In fact, that is the whole basis for whatever comes after the choosing part.
He didn't say a thing about flowers or candy or a card, if I recall. Just a $50 dish from a menu at a place of his choosing.
While we're at it, which partner ends up in the doghouse for failing to do so?