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Old 02-14-2010, 09:19 PM
 
Location: South FL
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I think those type of women were never really fully straight if I may. They already had bisexual tendencies in them. You can't just turn the switch on and off, and all of a sudden become attracted to women. One thing is to just experiment with women when you are young and adventerous, but to actually have a real serious relationship with a woman, you need to at least be bisexual IMO.
No matter how horrible my experience with men would have been, I cannot forsee myself switching to women. I just love that man's organ too much.
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Old 02-14-2010, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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No matter how horrible my experience with men would have been, I cannot forsee myself switching to women. I just love that man's organ too much.
The funniest thing is many of them seek women who look like men and use fake "organs," too! I just don't get it! What lesbian are you then?! If you want a woman, get a woman!
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Old 02-14-2010, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Well, clearly there are some who are "born gay." I mean, throughout the ages there have been feminine men and masculine women. For them, there's no choice involved.

HOWEVER, for some others it's a choice, a fetish, whatever you want to call it. I know of women who've wanted to give lesbian relationships a go, just as some people want to try threesomes, swinging, S & M, etc. I don't know the women, per se -- I've dated their previous husbands and boyfriends. One woman left her husband and three kids to move in with another woman, saw that the grass wasn't greener, and then wanted to come back after 18 months (after the husband and kids went through hell and all needed counseling).

Furthermore, when I was teaching, I saw a whole lot of experimenting with same-sex practices among teens. Very, very few of them were actually homosexuals.

A comment previously stated that the homosexual community hates this sort of talk and insist homosexuality is in-born. I agree, some of it is. But the homosexual community has taken their issues to the public square and insisted on acceptance for alternative sexuality. That's fine, but they have to realize that when everything is accepted there WILL be people trying it out. And I think there's a lot of that going on right now.
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Old 02-14-2010, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The funniest thing is many of them seek women who look like men and use fake "organs," too! I just don't get it! What lesbian are you then?! If you want a woman, get a woman!
Yeah, I don't get that, either.

(An aside: Did you tick off the CD Bot, Sierra? The system never lets me rep you for some reason, grrrrr.)
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Columbus, Indiana
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I think that's agood question. I know a woman who was married and had children, but her husband was very abusive and they got divorced. Now she is in a relationship with another woman. I assume she was attracted to her husband in the beginning.
Remeber Ann Heche? I believe she was in a relationship with Elen Degeneres, and they broke up, later Ann married a man. very strange. Kind of the reverse, but it's switching from one to the other.
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:52 PM
 
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I'm sure you've heard all the jokes/rants about feminists and how women will "turn gay" because they are sick of men. But does this really happen? Do any of you know someone who has gone this route?

I know women who have been married to men, had children and gave into their preferences later on in life. They say they are happier now and even glad they don't have to deal with the complications of relationships with men, but they don't hate them. I personally don't believe people choose to be gay, so I doubt that someone who literally gave up on men would be any more fulfilled.

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This is such a good question. It's thought-provoking and puts people's notions on display. I don't know the answer, but I have two theories. One is that the woman was gay all along, and the second theory is that sometimes people will do anything if there are enough benefits. The million dollar question for example. People were asked if they would have sex with someone of the same gender for 1 million dollars. Strangely enough, many people answered :yes.

So perhaps these women were not gay to begin with, when they married their husband. Then they found a 'friend' who was gay and really into her. Then the friend convinced her that she would be well provided for if she took up with the friend. Its hard to say what goes through people's minds. What actually motivates some people to do certain things. Some people, do have the 'user' mentality, like Anne Heche, for example. I would say the answer is not cut and dry. I beleive the majority of the woman who go gay, have always been gay. But its an excellent question.
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Old 02-15-2010, 06:54 AM
 
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Well, clearly there are some who are "born gay." I mean, throughout the ages there have been feminine men and masculine women. For them, there's no choice involved.

HOWEVER, for some others it's a choice, a fetish, whatever you want to call it. I know of women who've wanted to give lesbian relationships a go, just as some people want to try threesomes, swinging, S & M, etc. I don't know the women, per se -- I've dated their previous husbands and boyfriends. One woman left her husband and three kids to move in with another woman, saw that the grass wasn't greener, and then wanted to come back after 18 months (after the husband and kids went through hell and all needed counseling).

Furthermore, when I was teaching, I saw a whole lot of experimenting with same-sex practices among teens. Very, very few of them were actually homosexuals.

A comment previously stated that the homosexual community hates this sort of talk and insist homosexuality is in-born. I agree, some of it is. But the homosexual community has taken their issues to the public square and insisted on acceptance for alternative sexuality. That's fine, but they have to realize that when everything is accepted there WILL be people trying it out. And I think there's a lot of that going on right now.
Just to clarify, there are masculine women who are "born straight" (and are straight all of their lives) and feminine women who are "born gay". Being feminine or masculine doesn't make you straight or gay. Many people would be surprised to find out how many very feminine women are presupposed to be straight when they're actually lesbian.

I once read (In the NYT?) that many scientists believe bisexuality to be extremely common in females and I guess it's the case with many women who after many years with men end up in a relationship with another woman. Also, not few gay women are insecure and repressed and only later in life do they feel strong enough to acknowledge their lesbian inclinations.
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Old 02-15-2010, 07:40 AM
 
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Sexual identidy seems to be a bit more fluid with women compared to men. Some women have commented that they could consider being with another woman under the right circumstances (especially with alcohol involved). By contrast, we do not hear men say that.

How much of this is nature vs nuture, I dunno. We'll see as time goes on. There is speculation some some older women will (or are) becoming lesbians because no men will have them. I don't know if that's true though.

We do have articles like this though:

Australia: Older women urged to become lesbians
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:01 AM
 
Location: In my view finder.....
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Tired of men is what i say. What they need to examine is their selection process. If these so called lez-bo's, are jumping ship because of "awful" men, these men were probably awful before they met the men.

Don't blame the men.....
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:21 AM
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Location: MA/NH
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I've known two older women that were lesbians for a while. One remarried her husband afterwards.

I just met a woman that seems to be a permanent lesbian due to being disgusted with the way men are. She works for the state doing some sort of inspections, so she is around tradesmen a lot. She is sort of a masculine woman herself, not the delicate helpless type.

Sometimes, I find men annoying. Especially the immature types with their massive porn collections on their hard drives and who only want to date hotties. But there are always a few good and decent men around which makes it all better. And actually more women annoy me than men... I don't get along with the stay at home mother types, or the girly feminine ones who love to shop. Most women are too insecure and emotional for me to want to spend a lot of time with. And I'm not attracted to the female body in a sexual way. So I would rather be permanently single than to be with a man that I wasn't compatible with, and I would never resort to being a lesbian. Sex isn't that important to me if it's not with someone I care about and respect. I am really quite fine being alone.
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