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Also, the same experiment was made with men, and their average was not changed by the womans income. The assumption is that men are primarily concerned with a womans attractiveness and isnt affected by their income. I had this discussion with a friend and a goofy point that i made was this, "do you think a guy would sleep with a homeless woman if she was really hot? Possibly. Do you think a girl would sleep with a homeless guy if he was hot? Hell no"
Same problem -- no other variables were introduced to demonstrate that attractiveness is the only factor or the major factor in determining a man's decision to marry.
But how do the researchers know that other variables -- such as, let's say, the ability to compose poetry or speaking several foreign languages -- would not have produced similar results?
Those variables were not taken into consideration in this experiment, they did several other experiments but i dont honestly remember them all because it was about a year ago when i saw this. The amount of women was a few hundred in each group, although i dont remeber exactly, it may have been 500. Regardless, it shows that there is some correlation between a mans income and how that attracts women. I aggree that this one experiment does not take into account other things, how can a single experiment do that? But it does have a point. And if someone wanted to make an assumption that women must have a productive mate so that they can provide for them and the kids....blah blah blah, then that is a posible assumption. I will grant that it isnt a fact, but a plausible assumption. Men, on the other hand, could have the assumption that we only want to spread our "seed" around, so we dont care about a womans ability to provide.
An obvious fix that would prevent divorce and eliminate the industry around it. Marriage Licenses require renewal annually. The Government could collect a renewal fee from each person of $1000 for it. Said renewel would be conditional on both parties agreeing and after proper answers to a form showing that the marriage was working out. If the Marriage was not renewed, any joint assets would be allocated by a Bureaucrat. Any offspring would become wards of the State to be adopted by only stable couples of 5 years minimum marriage renewal (fees collected from the marriage licenses would offset the cost to the State).
The 5 year renewal point would start a more formal marriage with only needing renewal after each 4 years with no fee required just completion of a marriage counseling course. The children of a long term marriage that ended without renewal would be handled as they are now for the present day so-called till death license.
Purchase of the till death license could still exist and would only be authorized for citizens putting up $1,000,000. This would still require the minimum 5 years of marriage renewal had been accomplished.
An obvious fix that would prevent divorce and eliminate the industry around it. Marriage Licenses require renewal annually. The Government could collect a renewal fee from each person of $1000 for it. Said renewel would be conditional on both parties agreeing and after proper answers to a form showing that the marriage was working out. If the Marriage was not renewed, any joint assets would be allocated by a Bureaucrat. Any offspring would become wards of the State to be adopted by only stable couples of 5 years minimum marriage renewal (fees collected from the marriage licenses would offset the cost to the State).
The 5 year renewal point would start a more formal marriage with only needing renewal after each 4 years with no fee required just completion of a marriage counseling course. The children of a long term marriage that ended without renewal would be handled as they are now for the present day so-called till death license.
Purchase of the till death license could still exist and would only be authorized for citizens putting up $1,000,000. This would still require the minimum 5 years of marriage renewal had been accomplished.
Problem solved!
You should submit that to Obama, he would probably back that.
"For better, for worse, for richer, for poorer" wasn't part of our vows, does that mean I'm excused? Honestly, all of it are just words that people put too much value on.
Marriage is a very complicated thing even for people who deeply love each other. Things change, people change, situations change.
When I was planning our wedding ceremony, I was reading different vows from previous people's weddings on some message board. There's a new trend of saying "For as long as our love shall last" instead of "till death do us part".
That strikes me as incredibly sad--to go into a marriage not intending to work through the tough times.
For one thing, I want to know how the two samples were selected. How many women in each? What were their backgrounds? What is the basis for the assumption that the same woman who rated a man as a 4 without knowing his income would rate him as a 9 had she known he was rich? It seems to me, the basis is the belief that all women think the same. Now, I'd like to see how they proved that. Also, what results did they obtain when instead of income, they put some other information on the picture, like interests, hobbies, intelligence, education, or accomplishments? Oh, right, they didn't do that, correct? If so, this is an illustration about my statement about them taking a bias and then selectively looking for information to prove it, rather than making comprehensive observations.
The experiment would progress like this:
Average-looking guy: 5
Average-looking guy with income of $500K: 8
Average-looking guy with income of $500K and love of children: 10
Average-looking guy with income of $500K, love of children and collection of child porn: 0
An obvious fix that would prevent divorce and eliminate the industry around it. Marriage Licenses require renewal annually. The Government could collect a renewal fee from each person of $1000 for it. Said renewel would be conditional on both parties agreeing and after proper answers to a form showing that the marriage was working out. If the Marriage was not renewed, any joint assets would be allocated by a Bureaucrat. Any offspring would become wards of the State to be adopted by only stable couples of 5 years minimum marriage renewal (fees collected from the marriage licenses would offset the cost to the State).
The 5 year renewal point would start a more formal marriage with only needing renewal after each 4 years with no fee required just completion of a marriage counseling course. The children of a long term marriage that ended without renewal would be handled as they are now for the present day so-called till death license.
Purchase of the till death license could still exist and would only be authorized for citizens putting up $1,000,000. This would still require the minimum 5 years of marriage renewal had been accomplished.
For better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, blah blah blah. We all know the words, but everywhere I look, it seems like these words don't carry much weight. I heard one story about a woman who left her husband after he lost his high-paying job. I heard another story about a man who ditched his wife when she got cancer and lost her good looks. For all the claims that marriage is a failed institution, maybe the criticism ought to be directed at the people who get married rather than the institution itself.
For better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health...til I get bored with you and/or find someone I like better.
This is more of a rant than a question. Maybe it's because of the unrealistic expectations people have for marriage. They love it when it's good, but quite a lot of people bail when the going gets tough. Some people just aren't cut out for marriage. I have more respect for the people who admit it than the ones who came to societal pressure and get married cause they think they're supposed to.
Yes, usually the woman. If you marry a woman it's only a matter of time before she leaves.
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