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Old 02-01-2011, 12:46 PM
 
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Hulk, I know it is bad to sin, but is it worse if I look forward to sinning?

How about if I look forward to sinning over and over again, and then again sinning some more?

It's your flesh that causes you to sin and that's what is going to perish during this age. Your created soul will remain in God. It was religion that dwelled on this good and evil thing. An evil religious person will take a good sinner and have him condemned to death and this happened frequently in the Roman Catholic days.
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:52 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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God even planned for some of his people to be Christians who would hate homosexuals. He made some Christians homosexuals and some would stop being a homosexual and others would start churches with homosexual members. In fact, God did a great job in confusing everyone while he worked with his prophets, Jesus and saints.
It looks like God give people the ability to make things up, as they go along.
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:52 PM
 
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God can and does change people - witness Dennis Jernigan.

DJ Videos - Testimony

God planned all things so when someone goes from a criminal to a religious sinner, it appears he's a better sinner. The problem is, he's still a sinner who can't obey the laws and commandments of God.

There's no difference between the pope, Billy Graham and a serial killer on death row. All three are sinners who don't know the true God.

The Jewish Pharisees thought they were the most righteous sinners around and they were. They had Jesus killed and then all the saints killed because of their jealousy.

I know this Dennis is a sinner without even looking at the video because of the knowledge I have in God. No sinner will ever get passed the gospel I preach without being exposed.
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:53 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Homosexuals were made to be Homosexuals ........ not so. God is not the originator of what is Moderator cut: deleted
Leviticus 18:22
“‘Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable

Leviticus 20:13
“‘If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.
They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

Deuteronomy 7:26
"Do not bring a detestable thing into your house or you, like it, will be set apart for destruction.
Utterly abhor and detest it, for it is set apart for destruction."

Deuteronomy 18:12
Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD,
and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you.

Deuteronomy 23:18
You must not bring the earnings of a female prostitute or of a male prostitute into the house of the LORD your God to pay any vow, because the LORD your God detests them both.



Romans 1:26
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.


Romans 1:27
In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.
Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.


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Old 02-01-2011, 12:54 PM
 
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Homosexuals were made to be Homosexuals ........ not so. God is not the originator of what is Moderator cut: Orphaned
Leviticus 18:22
“‘Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable

Leviticus 20:13
“‘If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.
They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

Deuteronomy 7:26
"Do not bring a detestable thing into your house or you, like it, will be set apart for destruction.
Utterly abhor and detest it, for it is set apart for destruction."

Deuteronomy 18:12
Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD,
and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you.

Deuteronomy 23:18
You must not bring the earnings of a female prostitute or of a male prostitute into the house of the LORD your God to pay any vow, because the LORD your God detests them both.



Romans 1:26
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.


Romans 1:27
In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.
Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Was this the work of man or of God?

Last edited by june 7th; 02-01-2011 at 07:49 PM..
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Old 02-01-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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When you distinguish one sinner from another, you have no idea who God is.

It's the flesh of man that's symbolically called satan, devil, serpent, lucifer, wicked one, thief, murderer, demons, the dead, etc. The DNA in the flesh of man was made corrupt so everyone is born a sinner and has no choice whatsoever in their life. We all do exactly what God planned for us to do.

I'll at least give you some credit for not trying to shift the blame onto us for something that's beyond our control, and in which we had no say over, in the first place.

You talk about being people being chosen/unchosen.

The big question is, what are we supposed to do about it, after all, it's not as if anything can be changed if its going according to a predetermined plan.
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Old 02-01-2011, 02:32 PM
 
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I'll at least give you some credit for not trying to shift the blame onto us for something that's beyond our control, and in which we had no say over, in the first place.

You talk about being people being chosen/unchosen.

The big question is, what are we supposed to do about it, after all, it's not as if anything can be changed if its going according to a predetermined plan.

Just love your family and friends before the end comes because it will be the last you'll ever see them again. We get new bodies in the next age that won't have any memory of this age but former sinners will be reborn into paradise. So they'll grow up without having any concern about the past just like when we were kids during this age. Did you think about history or where we came from at the age of 3?

Those of us who were chosen will get new adult bodies and have the knowledge of God that was given to us during this age. Our bodies won't have memory either, so this knowledge will guide us to form a new vocabulary and language for God to use to speak through us. We were created in the same spirit together but man was created both male and female and will be born with two bodies of the opposite sex and be partners forever. They will be the baby makers until the world is repopulated with all God's living creations in their new bodies.

So there's nothing to worry about. I was given a strong desire to preach the gospel until I'm killed, then the end will come. It won't be long from now when the earth starts to shake violently but don't worry about your flesh because your in God as we speak. God's creation doesn't have to go anywhere because we are nothing but thoughts within the thoughts of God. This is where we have our life and the light energy he created is the power that transmits our thoughts into our brains where they are processed. This information makes our bodies function according to God's plans. Just like a puppeteer pulling the strings of his puppet.
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Homosexuals were made to be Homosexuals ........ not so. God is not the originator of what is Moderator cut: deleted
Leviticus 18:22
“‘Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable

Leviticus 20:13
“‘If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.
They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

Deuteronomy 7:26
"Do not bring a detestable thing into your house or you, like it, will be set apart for destruction.
Utterly abhor and detest it, for it is set apart for destruction."

Deuteronomy 18:12
Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD,
and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you.

Deuteronomy 23:18
You must not bring the earnings of a female prostitute or of a male prostitute into the house of the LORD your God to pay any vow, because the LORD your God detests them both.



Romans 1:26
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.


Romans 1:27
In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.
Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Quoting scripture as a way to support real, meaningful claims is simply silly in this age of science and rational thought. Goodnight.
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Old 02-01-2011, 10:25 PM
 
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Quoting scripture as a way to support real, meaningful claims is simply silly in this age of science and rational thought. Goodnight.
You have a point Nep321, it's very meaningful, this discussion that we're having. Whether science or rational thought come into play here doesn't really matter, we're talking about real life situations and the fact that homosexuality really exists, it ain't going away.

Christianity is steeped in the OT, and let's be honest here, Jesus Christ never said one word about homosexuality. Did he? That's what I base my Christianity on, is Jesus Christ. And He came to do away with the OT laws and the idiotic things that those people came up with. God in the form of man. If anyone wants to know how to live and what to do then they need to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, not the OT. It's done away with, the teachings and the laws. Jesus rules!!
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Old 02-01-2011, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You have a point Nep321, it's very meaningful, this discussion that we're having. Whether science or rational thought come into play here doesn't really matter, we're talking about real life situations and the fact that homosexuality really exists, it ain't going away.

Christianity is steeped in the OT, and let's be honest here, Jesus Christ never said one word about homosexuality. Did he? That's what I base my Christianity on, is Jesus Christ. And He came to do away with the OT laws and the idiotic things that those people came up with. God in the form of man. If anyone wants to know how to live and what to do then they need to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, not the OT. It's done away with, the teachings and the laws. Jesus rules!!
Wow Ilene. You are a new person (or actually, just a changed person!)
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