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You know, as I read this and other religious forums in which there are debates, I have realized somthing... Atheists, Theists, and everything in between really arent that different.
1.] They both have somthing that they wholeheartedly beleive, regardless of the differences in what they beleive.
2.] Both can be very rude, judgemental, condescending, arrogant, etc. etc. when defending what they beleive.
3.] Both beleive that they know the truth about reality
4.] Lastly, regardless of whether or not Atheists are willing to admit it, both need to have """FAITH""" in order to beleive what they beleive.
4a.] theists and beleivers of revealed religions need to have faith that there is infact a God even though they have no concrete, non-refutable proof of one. Some need to have faith that the impossible events described in religious texts are infact true.
4b.] Atheists need to have faith that science will one day, un-doubtedly prove that there is no God. They need to have faith that science will one day answer all questions regarding the beginnings of time and life itself. { this is undeniable, there is NO theory of everything just yet } Lastly, Atheists need to have faith that the findings and opinions of like minded scientists are unbiased, and are a true account that has not been affected by their personal beleifs.
5.] At this point in time, both are purely speculative arguments. Neither can prove or disprove what they beleive to be true. { as I said, there is NO theory of everything just yet.
I am sure there are many more simalarities that some of you will post. But let me ask, with so many simalarities, why are we so harsh towards one another? Why is it so hard for us to get along? Perhaps its time to realise that no matter what our beleifs may be, we are ALL human and its time we start treating each other with more respect. No one of us is any better than the next.
It's true that everyone, regardless of belief, need to have some sort of faith in what they have come to believe is true. Faith is hope in things not seen...and it's required when proof is not possible.
Reality after all...is really defined by relative proof. As of now we can all agree that the sky is blue because we all can relate the same fact However it might not be reality at all. Scientists might all come to the same conclusion that global warming is caused by Co2 emissions, or a group of people all believe the Sun is God. It doesn't make it true.
At this time we cannot "prove" that everything started as one pinpoint in time- the big bang. And we cannot prove God is real, or even if life exists on other planets somewhere in the Universe.
I like to think of us as seekers of truth...and that truth is relative to what rings true to each of us.
I think theist try to claim that atheists have 'faith' just so that they (theists) can say 'See! You lot are just as crazy as we are'.
Science requires faith and cannot be absolute. The very process of determining fact and theory requires a statement of faith based on (relative) observation. Therefore truth is only truth until it is possibly proven wrong.
Let us state that as a Given there is an absolute truth.
To understand this Truth, one must have the intellectual capacity to understand that Truth. To date, no human being has that capability.
To understand this Truth, one must also have experience. One might state that even if a being has been around since the Big Bang and could experience everything that has happened in the Universe, that being still would not have enough experience to understand this Truth.
On a smaller scale, the Earth has always been (more or less) round. If one were to state that this is an absolute truth, our ancestors were divided between believing the world to be flat and round. For too many centuries, the "flat" Earth belief was the only accepted truth.
Thus, "what is true is true, whether you believe it to be true or not."
The more science discovers, the more questions it has. Many people wish that one day science will have all the answers, and then a definite proof of a no-god will be available. But, most likely, this will never happen.
Currently, scientists are still trying to figure out why, in the vacuum of space, there are particles appearing and disappearing. "Something out of nothing" appears to have some validity.
If one Absolute Truth is that there are many dimensions, many timelines, etc., etc., and people only want to believe that there is one dimension, one timeline, etc., etc., it is not that these people are wrong. In fact, any view of life and existence is not wrong. It is merely how one perceives one's own existence. What might be wrong, in my opinion, is to stand on a pebble and insist that my view is the Absolute Truth and everyone should concur and adhere to my Absolute Truth.
Nope! What's true is true, whether you believe it to be true or not.
And YOU are able to KNOW what that truth is . . . HOW, Raf?
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