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What do you mean by "Christians oppose"? I am a Christian and I believe church and state should be separate. So did the founders who wrote, and all the state legislatures who ratified, the Bill of Rights, 99% of whom were Christians (there may have been one or two Jews).
Of course. Lots of Christians believe church and state should be separate, and it's been said on this forum many times.
Mixing religion and government is harmful to both, as history has proven.
What do you mean by "Christians oppose"? I am a Christian and I believe church and state should be separate. So did the founders who wrote, and all the state legislatures who ratified, the Bill of Rights, 99% of whom were Christians (there may have been one or two Jews).
Oh yes. As MQ says, a lot of Christians are not the problem and atheists have no quarrel with them, though obviously a different view about Jesus. But agreeing on Church and State not to mention Christians that accept evolution, and we seem to have the same views on the dangers of religious fundamentalism that seem to want to make US society, politics and education dance to the Genesis -literaiist tune.
On the atheist side, we recognize the right of people to 'believe what they like' (or not) with equal rights. So long as this is accepted as a Faith -based belief and is not peddled outside the church, home or mosque as unquestionably supported by fact, science or history. If they do that, then of course just as with a movement to claim astrology, Bigfoot, UFOs, Homeopathy and the flat earth as true, then the opposition have every right to go public with rebuttal
That is a fair system, and I hope you'll see that it is and we are not targeting Christians who are not part of the problem.
Well, the word "Christian" is not synonymous with "fundamentalist Protestant who believes in biblical inerrancy and wants a theocracy".
Please use correct terminology.
As a religious minority, I agree with you to a certain degree. Unfortunately, in this day and age, those frightening fundamentalist Christians of any denomination are the most obnoxious, aggressive, and theocratic that they cannot simply be ignored. These people are dangerous.
Oh yes. As MQ says, a lot of Christians are not the problem and atheists have no quarrel with them, though obviously a different view about Jesus. But agreeing on Church and State not to mention Christians that accept evolution, and we seem to have the same views on the dangers of religious fundamentalism that seem to want to make US society, politics and education dance to the Genesis -literaiist tune.
On the atheist side, we recognize the right of people to 'believe what they like' (or not) with equal rights. So long as this is accepted as a Faith -based belief and is not peddled outside the church, home or mosque as unquestionably supported by fact, science or history. If they do that, then of course just as with a movement to claim astrology, Bigfoot, UFOs, Homeopathy and the flat earth as true, then the opposition have every right to go public with rebuttal
That is a fair system, and I hope you'll see that it is and we are not targeting Christians who are not part of the problem.
Your words and your actions simply don’t align.
Your efforts are confined to battling against random Christians on this one forum, yet your stated “target” is Christian fundamentalism influence on US society, politics and education??
Take me as an example. I live in Canada and have zero influence on US society, politics and education. How does any of your effort made toward someone in my situation do ANYTHING to advance your stated goals? Obviously you ARE targeting Christians who are not part of the problem. As I’ve said to you in the past, you seem not to care about efficacy.
Oh yes. As MQ says, a lot of Christians are not the problem and atheists have no quarrel with them, though obviously a different view about Jesus. But agreeing on Church and State not to mention Christians that accept evolution, and we seem to have the same views on the dangers of religious fundamentalism that seem to want to make US society, politics and education dance to the Genesis -literaiist tune.
On the atheist side, we recognize the right of people to 'believe what they like' (or not) with equal rights. So long as this is accepted as a Faith -based belief and is not peddled outside the church, home or mosque as unquestionably supported by fact, science or history. If they do that, then of course just as with a movement to claim astrology, Bigfoot, UFOs, Homeopathy and the flat earth as true, then the opposition have every right to go public with rebuttal
That is a fair system, and I hope you'll see that it is and we are not targeting Christians who are not part of the problem.
your faith based atheism is exactly like faith based theism ... you are fine so long as people stay out of your way.
as soon as we evaluate your claims using the scientific method, thats when your true colors show.
your faith based atheism is exactly like faith based theism ... you are fine so long as people stay out of your way.
as soon as we evaluate your claims using the scientific method, thats when your true colors show.
In what way did you use the scientific method to determine that "faith based atheism is exactly like faith based theism"? Do you have data for that? Or is that your opinion?
In what way did you use the scientific method to determine what "true colors" are or what T's "true colors" are? Do you have data for that? Or is that your opinion?
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Of course. Lots of Christians believe church and state should be separate, and it's been said on this forum many times.
