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Old 08-07-2008, 10:21 AM
 
Location: PA
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Take another look.. and then tell me... was it a statement......... or a question.. ?

And.. if you haven't REALLY heard something..... then how can it be silly.. ?

I'm wondering.

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"Hearing is the ability to collect, process and interpret sound. Sound vibrations travel through air, water, or solids in the form of pressure waves. When a sound wave hits a flexible object such as the eardrum it causes it to vibrate, which begins the process of hearing. The process of hearing involves the conversion of acoustical energy (sound waves) to mechanical, hydraulic, chemical, and finally electrical energy where the signal reaches the brain and is interpreted."

Hearing - Sound, Animal Hearing, Human Hearing

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You tell me if it a question or a statement! It was your post. I have heard that question many times and it is a useless question. It does not make sense. It is silly because it does not pertain to reality. It does not even pertain to your post, because if Jesus made no influence (or sound)on the public of his day how has his message become what it is today? The whole world knows of Christianity and the gospel of Christ. It is written in Luke 12: 3: "Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops."

A tree is not silly, the noise it makes is not silly. It is the questioning whether it makes a noise when it falls that is silly.

There is evidence of Jesus' life it is called the new testament. He was influential look around... there is a Christian Church on every corner, a bible in every hotel room, a missionary to every area of every country in the world. I think that is an influence.
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Netherlands
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Default For if the first covenant had been faultless...... Errors.. what errors.. :-)

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It sounds like you want us to read between the lines and allow the bible to be wrong, yet we are also suppose to accept as being error free.
Things are some times not what they seem to be..

That's what I'm saying.

Taken as a whole.. the bible isn't wrong.

Is it error free.. ?

NO

There are many errors made by translators.

There are also many errors being taught.. due to some people's poor reading comprehension.

But.. just as science corrects the errors it makes.. so does religion....... but it takes time.


A good example is when David said.. Moses spoke rashly.. and.. those who speak rashly are lible to make errors.

However.. the NT corrects that error...

Just as Eistein corrected the error of the concept of absolute time.

His NT.. was that time was relative.

Science.. religion........ its the same.

Moses made errors.. and Jesus corrected them.

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“For they embittered his spirit
And he began to speak rashly with his lips.”

Psalms 106:33


"Certainly, then, there occurs a setting aside of the proceeding commandment on account of its weakness and ineffectiveness.

For the law made nothing perfect but the bringing in besides of a better hope did, through which we are drawing near to God.

For if the first covenant had been faultless. No place would have been sought for a second."

Hebrews 7:18

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Old 08-07-2008, 10:33 AM
 
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You tell me if it a question or a statement! It was your post. I have heard that question many times and it is a useless question. It does not make sense. It is silly because it does not pertain to reality.

"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" is a philosophical riddle that raises questions regarding observation and knowledge of reality."


If a tree falls in a forest - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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It's not silly........... so there... ;-p

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Old 08-07-2008, 10:42 AM
 
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Well I do believe that Jesus existed, but I do not agree with over bearing Christians who believe their way is the only way. Afterall, where did the souls go before Jesus was born who never had a chance to learn or meet Jesus, ions before he was born, did they all go to hell?
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:14 PM
 
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Default Nothing, except that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is being publicized, and in this I rejoice.

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There is evidence of Jesus' life it is called the new testament. He was influential look around... there is a Christian Church on every corner, a bible in every hotel room, a missionary to every area of every country in the world. I think that is an influence.

"True, some are preaching the Christ through envy and rivalry, but others also through goodwill.

The latter are publicizing the Christ out of love, for they know I am set here for the defense of the good news; but the former do it out of contentiousness, not with a pure motive, for they are supposing to stir up tribulation for me in my prison bonds.

What then?

Nothing, except that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is being publicized, and in this I rejoice. In fact, I will also keep on rejoicing,”

Philippians 1:15
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Old 08-07-2008, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Ireland
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What contradictions.. ?
How many do you want?

Just to get you started;

Samuel 15:2,3 "Thus saith the Lord . . . Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

JAS 5:11 "The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy."
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Old 08-07-2008, 06:18 PM
 
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Default For, though I am free from all persons, I have made myself the

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How many do you want?

Just to get you started;

Samuel 15:2,3 "Thus saith the Lord . . . Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

JAS 5:11 "The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy."
See my post above.. "For if the first covenant had been faultless.."

I have already covered this OT made obsolete by NT argument.

The good thing about contradictions.. is they make you think.. in order to resolve them.

There are also contradictions in science..

Can we travel faster than light.. or can’t we.

Relativity says….. yes……... and no.

Does that mean we should doubt it.. ?

Contradictions are part of the thought process..

Once resolved.. they go away.

In this sense.. they are apparent.. but not actual.

Here's a good example..

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“For, though I am free from all persons, I have made myself the
slave to all, that I may gain the most persons.

And so to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain Jews;
to those under law I became as under law, though I myself am not
under law, that I might gain those under law.

To those without law I became as without law, although I am
not without law toward God but under law toward Christ, that I
might gain those without law.

To the weak I became weak, that I might gain the weak. I have
become all things to people of all sorts, that I might by all means
save some.”

1Corinthian 9:19

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So.. are there contradictions in the bible.. ?

Yes..

Does that matter..?

Why should it.. ?

If you like.. start a new thread.. Bible Contradictions.. and we can discuss this further.

Right now I'm off to bed.

ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........

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Old 08-08-2008, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Ireland
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The good thing about contradictions.. is they make you think.. in order to resolve them.
How can you resolve them? By taking a bible and translating it to suit your own beliefs?

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There are also contradictions in science..
Off topic..... we're talking about bible contradictions and whether a Jesus as outlined in that collection of books actually existed.

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So.. are there contradictions in the bible.. ?

Yes..

Does that matter..?

Why should it.. ?
Because so many of them are of such glaring proportions that they throw out the bible as a reliable source of information.

Ergo, can the bible prove that someone called Jesus existed or that he done all or any of the things attributed to him?

A resounding "No!".
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:11 AM
 
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That's been known for hundreds of years
There are recent findings. I don't have the website to back it up but if you email later I can provide that information for you.

It was an act of man. Have a read of this and other sites.

You don't feel God had any part of this?

Do you mean new studies?
It is new discoveries but same bible facts, just adding up that the bible stories are true.

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Old 08-08-2008, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Ireland
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I mean new discoveries but same bible facts.
Sources for these 'new discoveries', please?
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