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Old 09-06-2013, 10:43 AM
 
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Even your own theologians dispute this claim. Maybe you should provide your evidence to them before trying to claim it to atheists.
who are my "own theologians" that dispute these claims?


and still waiting for that dog...

 
Old 09-06-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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I think what he will no doubt say is he wants you to make a dog from a few sacks of chemicals. Which is not how evolution works. It is an illogical argument.

Give me a few sacks of chemicals and a few billion years of interactions under the same evolving conditions that existed in our geologic history and I could make a dog or something with analogous complexity at least.
Yet.....it's never been observed. Heck, the simplest of life coming from a few chemicals has never been observed.
 
Old 09-06-2013, 10:45 AM
 
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Still waiting for proof that woman was fashioned from man's rib.
why are you trying to change the subject? Why can't you stay on topic?
 
Old 09-06-2013, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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why are you trying to change the subject? Why can't you stay on topic?
Nice try.

Duckin' n' runnin'.
 
Old 09-06-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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Nice try.

Duckin' n' runnin'.
still waiting.
 
Old 09-06-2013, 10:57 AM
 
Location: South Africa
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I think Viz OD'd on his nasty pills this morning
 
Old 09-06-2013, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Yet.....it's never been observed. Heck, the simplest of life coming from a few chemicals has never been observed.
Since it'd take billions of years, it inherently is not observable / reproducible.

Or maybe it is:

Scientists Create Artificial Life -- a Living Organism from Bottled Chemicals - Yahoo Voices - voices.yahoo.com
 
Old 09-06-2013, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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who are my "own theologians" that dispute these claims?


and still waiting for that dog...
Can't make you a dog. Would you settle for a horses behind?
 
Old 09-06-2013, 12:40 PM
 
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Since it'd take billions of years, it inherently is not observable / reproducible.

Or maybe it is:

Scientists Create Artificial Life -- a Living Organism from Bottled Chemicals - Yahoo Voices - voices.yahoo.com
The article is somewhat confusing and/or misleading. They did not create life. They took a bacteria, removed it's DNA, then inserted artificial DNA.

Scientists Create Artificial "Living" Bacterium: Reproduces as the Original Does - Yahoo Voices - voices.yahoo.com
 
Old 09-06-2013, 05:21 PM
 
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Yet.....it's never been observed. Heck, the simplest of life coming from a few chemicals has never been observed.
Here's your problem, you can run but you can't hide from the fact, with emphasis on the fact, that all life as we know it is based upon these 6 basic chemical elements, that these elements vary existence are the result of the process of nuclear fusion created by stars.

As for your statement that even the simplest life so not a. coming from these chemicals elements and b. that this has never been observed is so fundamentally false as to only rate abject derision. We can chemically break down every living species on the planet and all we would be left with are six basic chemical elements. We can even go further by referencing the 60 year old experiments of Stanley Miller and Harold Urey which conclusively demonstrated that the most basic building blocks for all of life, amino acids, can repeatably created in a laboratory by combining these basic chemical elements while replicating early earth conditions.

Those are simply indisputable facts.

Not that I didn't say undeniable because any fool can deny that which is plain to see as the nose on their face.
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