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Male circumcision is not something I have a problem with. If a parent wants to circumcise their kid, so be it. I don't understand what grounds you criticize it according to.
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My worldview says do no harm unto others.
By what grounds can you possibly enforce your worldview on others?
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But I am curious what tells you that you can enforce your morals.
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Male circumcision is not something I have a problem with. If a parent wants to circumcise their kid, so be it. I don't understand what grounds you criticize it according to.
Why is make genial mutilation army better than female? You still didn't answer the point that in one case your OK with practices because a society endorses them but not in the other case. What moral guidance are you using?
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By what grounds can you possibly enforce your worldview on others?
I can't. Either can you.
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Me, neither. I certainly don't live by a book that tells me to do that. Nor one that tells me snakes can talk, that unicorns or dragons exist.
You preach from that book all the time.
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But I am curious what tells you that you can enforce your morals.
Genital mutilation is objectionable. It's especially objectionable when performed on an infant.
This is a common sense perspective. Try using it sometime.
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Originally Posted by Vizio
Male circumcision is not something I have a problem with. If a parent wants to circumcise their kid, so be it. I don't understand what grounds you criticize it according to.
By what grounds can you possibly enforce your worldview on others?
Why is make genial mutilation army better than female? You still didn't answer the point that in one case your OK with practices because a society endorses them but not in the other case. What moral guidance are you using?
If you can't see the difference between removing a foreskin and mutilating a girl's genitals, I'm not sure I can help you.
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I can't. Either can you.
I believe that God imprinted a sense of right and wrong on my heart. That's why I call something wrong. You also believe many things to be wrong, but without a higher authority other than your own opinion, you have no standard by which to judge something--other than your own opinion. It may be wrong, but the best you can do is say you don't like it.
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You preach from that book all the time.
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See above
I'm still waiting for you to give me a reason why anything you say in regards to morals should be taken above anyone else's view.
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If you can't see the difference between removing a foreskin and mutilating a girl's genitals, I'm not sure I can help you.
In other words it is not OK to mutilate a female's genitals but OK to mutilate a male's. I'm not sure what else you can call it.
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I believe that God imprinted a sense of right and wrong on my heart. That's why I call something wrong. You also believe many things to be wrong, but without a higher authority other than your own opinion, you have no standard by which to judge something--other than your own opinion. It may be wrong, but the best you can do is say you don't like it.
Having an imaginary being who you may think you have a relationship with influence your morals make as much sense as a kid being good because Santa is checking his list twice to see who is naughty or nice.
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I'm still waiting for you to give me a reason why anything you say in regards to morals should be taken above anyone else's view.
Your changing the question. Do I need to copy and paste the one I answered or will you check yourself?
These are cases of children circumcised with the metzitzah b'peh (mbp) method. This practice is far removed from hospital circumcision. Read about it here: Metzitzah b'peh - Metapedia.
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The mohel brings the baby’s organ into his mouth immediately after the excision of the foreskin and sucks blood from it vigorously. This action lowers the internal pressure in the tissues of the organ, in the blood vessels of the head of the organ and in the exposed ends of the arterioles that have just been cut. Thus, the difference between the pressure in the blood vessels in the base of the organ and the pressure in the blood vessels at its tip is increased. This requirement has deep religious significance as well as medical benefits.
—Mordechai Halperin, Metzitzah B’peh Controversy: The View from Israel, Jewish Action
Even at that, in one New York case the following came out:
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In response to inquiries about whether anyone in the family had herpes at the time of the baby’s illness, Mr. R. recalled that his wife had told health workers she herself had suffered a bout of mouth sores prior to the baby’s hospitalization.
Had health workers pursued this important clue, they would have learned that Mrs. R. herself believed, after learning how a herpes infection is transmitted, that she herself had unknowingly infected her baby due to her own cold sores.
As she told her lawyer, Mr. Simins, she had a habit of biting her index finger; when applying ointment to the circumcision cut on her baby and changing the gauze dressing, that is the finger she invariably used. She suspected that the germs were carried from her saliva to her baby via her index finger as she was never told to wash her hands before changing the dressing—and never did.
It's obvious that the metzitzah b'peh (mbp) method of circumcision is not what the majority of parents who have their infants circumcised are doing.
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