If the Bible is not the Word of God... (grace, hell, Buddha)
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then it would stand to reason that man ALONE wrote it, correct?
He couldn't have had "help" from Satan because if God doesn't exist then Satan, a created being/angel doesn't exist either. [I assume this is the position of atheists/agnostics.].
So why would man, being a selfish, self-serving creature give credit for all life and creating the whole universe to an imaginary being like God? Isn't that rather obtuse?
If there's no evidence of God why would man credit God with creation and life?
This must by necessity, extend to ALL religions, races, societies, nations, civilizations etc... not just Christianity.
then it would stand to reason that man ALONE wrote it, correct?
He couldn't have had "help" from Satan because if God doesn't exist then Satan, a created being/angel doesn't exist either. [I assume this is the position of atheists/agnostics.
Right.
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So why would man, being a selfish, self-serving creature give credit for all life and creating the whole universe to an imaginary being like God? Isn't that rather obtuse?
If there's no evidence of God why would man credit God with creation and life?
Simply put, to control gullible people.
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This must by necessity, extend to ALL religions, races, societies, nations, civilizations etc... not just Christianity.
then it would stand to reason that man ALONE wrote it, correct?
No, you say it yourself in the next sentence, ANYTHING could have inspired various parts, or all, or the editing of it
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He couldn't have had "help" from Satan because if God doesn't exist then Satan, a created being/angel doesn't exist either. (I assume this is the position of atheists/agnostics.).
enemies of humanity could still exist even if good gods don't.
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So why would man, being a selfish, self-serving creature give credit for all life and creating the whole universe to an imaginary being like God? Isn't that rather obtuse?
Why does man serve the King or President? To suit themselves. As poncy schemers make imaginary money to trick others, so could the gods have been. Many possibilities.
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If there's no evidence of God why would man credit God with creation and life?
This must by necessity, extend to ALL religions, races, societies, nations, civilizations etc... not just Christianity.
Indeed.
Man can't credit himself, it's too obvious. In the old days they thought existence existed. In Norse, the first god was frozen in the ice of existence, explaining his inaction up to the point of action. In Hellen, the Void is inexplicable and out of it came Primordials like Time and Heaven. In Kemetic, the Creator of the gods is Mysterious and created things from the lifeless chaos substance, creating Itself when It created Time.
The Jews thought up a fascist monotheism in heaven and gave themselves Credit for having been chosen by Him.
If there is no evidence of God why would man give credit to God?
That seems to be your main question, I think.
All you need is one Divine, mind altering experience where the Doors of Perception
are opened and knowledge is poured into your brain...insights, revelations galore...
Look at what Buddha started!
No evidence needed.His words inspire, ring true, people practice what he said...and
Bingo, happier life....doing and practicing, to me, is the proof or evidence.
Either it works or doesn't...but it must be practiced, not read about in a book.
Is there evidence that we have meridians as said in acupuncture?
Someone had a vision of them (I did one time like seeing a roadmap of the body).
But evidence? Good luck.
Nope, I'd say it is a tried and proven Path.
Actually practice what some of the Bible says and see for yourself...I would start
with, Be still and know that I am God...or Seek the Kingdom of Heaven first....why, to see
if it is true...those that sincerely seek with the heart of a child will find It.
That was my proof....found It.
Did I digress?
I'm sorry..I'm quite paranoid having posts deleted...threads closed.
Makes me scared to say anything much.
I'm always doing something wrong around here.
If there's no evidence of God why would man credit God with creation and life?
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There was plenty of evidence, they drew the wrong conclusions because they did not know enough to draw better ones.
In an age when very little was understood of the natural world and its physical operations, the blank was filled by postulating gods as responsible for all inexplicable events. It rains every spring for twenty straight years and suddenly there is a spring with no rain. What we now recognize as periodic climate extremes, they saw as a message from the gods who controlled the weather. No rain means no crops which means starving people...therefore they must have done something to anger the weather god. The solution was to guess what might please this god....sacrifice, rituals, offerings....and hope that it was enough to restore them to the god's favor.
Then if the normal amount of rain returned the next year, that was the validation they needed to confirm their interpretation. And whichever tribal member had led the actions which restored them to the good graces of that god, why he or she must be a holy person.
It was the classical working of the common logical error that if B followed A, A must have caused B.
In modern times there is no excuse for taking this ignorant, superstitious approach to the workings of nature, but many still do.
If there is no evidence of God why would man give credit to God?
That seems to be your main question, I think.
All you need is one Divine, mind altering experience where the Doors of Perception
are opened and knowledge is poured into your brain...insights, revelations galore...
Look at what Buddha started!
No evidence needed.His words inspire, ring true, people practice what he said...and
Bingo, happier life....doing and practicing, to me, is the proof or evidence.
Either it works or doesn't...but it must be practiced, not read about in a book.
Is there evidence that we have meridians as said in acupuncture?
Someone had a vision of them (I did one time like seeing a roadmap of the body).
But evidence? Good luck.
Nope, I'd say it is a tried and proven Path.
Actually practice what some of the Bible says and see for yourself...I would start
with, Be still and know that I am God...or Seek the Kingdom of Heaven first....why, to see
if it is true...those that sincerely seek with the heart of a child will find It.
That was my proof....found It.
Did I digress?
I'm sorry..I'm quite paranoid having posts deleted...threads closed.
Makes me scared to say anything much.
I'm always doing something wrong around here.
Firstly, the organ called the heart does no thinking, so I assume you mean the mind. Secondly, we can interpret this statement to say "If you look for something with the naive hope of a child, you'll find it", much like the legend of Santa Clause. Sorry, life is much more complicated than simply in a fantasy world where dreams come true if you only wish for them hard enough.
then it would stand to reason that man ALONE wrote it, correct?
He couldn't have had "help" from Satan because if God doesn't exist then Satan, a created being/angel doesn't exist either. [I assume this is the position of atheists/agnostics.].
So why would man, being a selfish, self-serving creature give credit for all life and creating the whole universe to an imaginary being like God? Isn't that rather obtuse?
If there's no evidence of God why would man credit God with creation and life?
This must by necessity, extend to ALL religions, races, societies, nations, civilizations etc... not just Christianity.
To explain the unexplainable, of course! Without an in depth understanding of science or the natural processes behind things, people didn't know how to explain such things. They knew of no such man like themselves with the ability and super-powers to do these powerful things. Therefore, they created a "being" (god) in their image and attributed superpowers to it, as an explanation for the unexplainable. It morphed from there.
So why would man, being a selfish, self-serving creature give credit for all life and creating the whole universe to an imaginary being like God? Isn't that rather obtuse?
If there's no evidence of God why would man credit God with creation and life?
People can draw wrong conclusions due to ignorance, and/or misleading intuition (confirmation bias, agency inference, etc). People can choose to deal with the finite nature of their existence with varying degrees of honesty. People can be swayed by parents and other relatives, teachers and mentors into assuming they are wrong and that others are right. People can be swayed by environments that distrust skepticism and open, objective inquiry. People can be manipulated and abused into conformance to groupthink.
Those are just a few of the reasons.
You are basically going with an argumentum ad populum fallacy here.
Billions can believe in a thing and it can still be wrong. Most of the world used to believe in bleeding with leeches to drain "bad humors". That didn't make it either true or effective.
then it would stand to reason that man ALONE wrote it, correct?
He couldn't have had "help" from Satan because if God doesn't exist then Satan, a created being/angel doesn't exist either. [I assume this is the position of atheists/agnostics.].
So why would man, being a selfish, self-serving creature give credit for all life and creating the whole universe to an imaginary being like God? Isn't that rather obtuse?
If there's no evidence of God why would man credit God with creation and life?
This must by necessity, extend to ALL religions, races, societies, nations, civilizations etc... not just Christianity.
At least 2/3 of the world's population believe the Bible was written by Man Alone. Most of that 2/3 are theists and do believe in a deity or deities. but not the one in the bible.
While I am a theist, I like to try to understand why some people are Atheists and also why Atheism is fast growing.
I find that many of us theists tend to place our belief on the same statement.
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If there's no evidence of God why would man credit God with creation and life?
While that is sufficient for us theists it is not sufficient for all people. Everything we see as evidence of God(swt) can be explained by other means. For many Atheists the belief in God(swt) is just a means of explaining the unknown.
I do not belive any one will actually believe in God(swt) unless they are receptive to being led by God(swt). God(swt) will lead those willing to be led. A theist has no need of physical proof.
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