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Never mind the argument of Second Law of Thermodynamics is used fallaciously by creationists, now it appears that in may be challenged by new developments... creating something out of nothing.
Not only that, Swedish scientiest are doing the impossible, creating light from nothing. Again, no god of any kind needed, including Zeus or Thor, and especially not Yahweh.
Go figure. Creationists, we know your going to reflect on what is written in Genesis, but remember, that was by a bunch of superstitious, bronzed aged desert dwellers, who had no clue about the universe and science.
First of all, thanks for posting the links - absolutely enjoyable and new to me as well!
My feelings about quantum entanglement are the same as Einstein's - "there is something wrong with that boy " without knowing what it is. I would love to demolish the action-at-a-distance concept, but darn scientists seem to keep proving it.
Having said that, what's with the unneeded putdowns? "I recognize most here won't understand what the paper describes" - well, did YOU? If you did, prove it. Explain the basic differences between Zurek's work and the authors'.
Faith begins where science ends and objective experiments are impossible. And the second law of thermodynamics is hardly controversial.
I wouldn't mind being a "bronzed aged desert dweller" though. Sounds very rugged and manly.
Never mind the argument of Second Law of Thermodynamics is used fallaciously by creationists, now it appears that in may be challenged by new developments... creating something out of nothing.
Not only that, Swedish scientiest are doing the impossible, creating light from nothing. Again, no god of any kind needed, including Zeus or Thor, and especially not Yahweh.
Go figure. Creationists, we know your going to reflect on what is written in Genesis, but remember, that was by a bunch of superstitious, bronzed aged desert dwellers, who had no clue about the universe and science.
The Bible never says God created everything out of nothing.
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Go figure. Creationists, we know your going to reflect on what is written in Genesis, but remember, that was by a bunch of superstitious, bronzed aged desert dwellers, who had no clue about the universe and science.
Moses had the equivalent of a PhD. He was trained in all the wisdom of Egypt. I'd like to see you build the Giza Pyramid and use it like the machine it was built for.
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Originally Posted by cfa-ish
First of all, thanks for posting the links - absolutely enjoyable and new to me as well!
My feelings about quantum entanglement are the same as Einstein's - "there is something wrong with that boy " without knowing what it is. I would love to demolish the action-at-a-distance concept, but darn scientists seem to keep proving it.
Having said that, what's with the unneeded putdowns? "I recognize most here won't understand what the paper describes" - well, did YOU? If you did, prove it. Explain the basic differences between Zurek's work and the authors'.
Faith begins where science ends and objective experiments are impossible. And the second law of thermodynamics is hardly controversial.
I wouldn't mind being a "bronzed aged desert dweller" though. Sounds very rugged and manly.
No put down intended at all...it is just common sense that there will only be a very few physicist here how could properly critique or understand the posted paper. I provided it as a source document in the off chance someone wanted to study it, and possibly have cogent discussions of it.
I am not a physicist.. my expertise is more in the biological sciences.
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The Bible never says God created everything out of nothing.
That is not the story we hear from any creationists
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Moses had the equivalent of a PhD. He was trained in all the wisdom of Egypt. I'd like to see you build the Giza Pyramid and use it like the machine it was built for.
Moses as a person is harder to prove than Jesus as one. Besides, the pyramids were built before the bible says there was a worldwide flood, yet show no evidence of being impacted by it.
Never mind the argument of Second Law of Thermodynamics is used fallaciously by creationists, now it appears that in may be challenged by new developments... creating something out of nothing.
Not only that, Swedish scientiest are doing the impossible, creating light from nothing. Again, no god of any kind needed, including Zeus or Thor, and especially not Yahweh.
Go figure. Creationists, we know your going to reflect on what is written in Genesis, but remember, that was by a bunch of superstitious, bronzed aged desert dwellers, who had no clue about the universe and science.
So what exactly does this say to you? Are you using it to argue that there is an eternal universe?
Moses as a person is harder to prove than Jesus as one. Besides, the pyramids were built before the bible says there was a worldwide flood, yet show no evidence of being impacted by it.
But still, why would scientists not need God if they could create something from nothing? It seems they, at least in thought, feel they have no need of God prior to the discovery.
If God never existed, none of us would be existing.
So what exactly does this say to you? Are you using it to argue that there is an eternal universe?
Why do you ask? Would not an answer of "I just know" suffice for you?
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" without knowing what it is. I would love to demolish the action-at-a-distance concept, but darn scientists seem to keep proving it.
