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Uh, no ... the ark would have to be a lot bigger than that. A lot bigger. So big, in fact ... well, let me give you a comparison.
The British ship-of-the-line HMS Victory was only 165 feet long and weighed in at roughly 3600 tons. It took 6,000 oak trees to build her. Yeah, count 'em, 6,000 trees.
The supposed Ark was almost 3x as long as the Victory and it would need to be heavily reinforced to hold the weight of thousands of animals and the food supply. Plus, it would have to be amazingly tall. The reason is that a heavy ship is buoyant only because of the air inside of it. If the weight of the ship overwhelms the ship's buoyancy (via some formula I don't feel like looking up), the ship sinks.
The taller the ship, the more "beam" it needs; the wider it has to be to avoid being too top heavy and capsizing. That means even MORE wood. We're talking, from a very basic extrapolation, at least 24,000 trees, but if you count the massive amount of width needed, not to mention the excess height to maintain buoyancy, I'd estimate the total to be closer to 50,000. That's almost an entire forest.
It's just nonsense. And I really can't understand why you folks keep clinging to this myth. There are at least 100 different reasons why the Ark story is ridiculous and yet you'll ignore each and every one in order to believe a rip-off of Gilgamesh is true -- but only the Hebrew version.
Well, let's see, there are currently 339 different breeds of dogs that are officially recognized, which means a wolf would need to have a litter of different breeds of dogs just about once every day. Except, hmm, the gestation period of a wolf is roughly 72 days. Gee, uh ... something just doesn't add up.
And a single wolf popping out chihuahuas, saint bernards, great danes, beagles, shi'tzus, pit bulls, and all the rest, once per day every day for a year ... LOL! I just find that funny for some reason.
It would be puny by today's standards. Imagine if you took one of those massive 400,000 ton oil tankers and turned the holds into deck space. Yeah ... you could probably fit the Ark inside one of those babies. And you STILL wouldn't be able to cram 2 of every kind of animal AND their food supply into an Ark of even that size.
And yes, you would have to put millions of animals on it - two of every type. I'm not sure how you're avoiding that reality. The idea that you just have to take, say, a pair of lions and the female will start gestating uber-rapidly to pop out leopards and cheetahs and lynxes and ocelots and the several hundred house cat breeds, and on and on. Nonsense. You'd have to take two of each cat breeds because a lion mating with a lion isn't going to produce a maine coon. Sorry, no cigars for you.
Here is some info on it:
So ... if there are 96,000 animals, each one gets 1 square foot of space. I bet the elephants feel reeeeeally comfortable in their 1'x1'x1' cubicle. And let's face it, there had to be a lot more than 96,000 animals considering that's actually only 48,000 different species.
I really don't know why anyone tries validating Noah's Ark these days. I mean, seriously ... it's just too easy to debunk.
You would think that God could have just created new animals once the flood was over. Why go to all this trouble of getting them onto this boat. Oh and of course God kills the rest of the animals that are not the ones on the ark for spite I guess. What did they do exactly to be wiped off from the planet's surface along with babies of "sinner" families that were not God's favorite apparently like Noah and his family. The whole story is idiotic as mentioned from so many points of view. As I always keep saying on here, some adults just can't leave childhood myths and silliness behind and face that little old thing we call reality here on planet Earth.
Uh, no ... the ark would have to be a lot bigger than that.
You are making an assumption based on your misperception below.
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Well, let's see, there are currently 339 different breeds of dogs that are
officially recognized, which means a wolf would need to have a litter of
different breeds of dogs just about once every day. Except, hmm, the gestation
period of a wolf is roughly 72 days. Gee, uh ... something just doesn't add up.
It does not add up because you are assuming that 339 different breeds of dogs has to be on the ark.
Genesis 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. 20 Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.
You only need 2 pairs of dogs, male & female in each pair. You get your varieties soon enough through variations within the species. As it is with the dogs, so it is the same with other species so the number you are thinking of when assuming that different variations within the species are required to be on the ark is wrong & has been greatly reduced when the Bible is referring to the collection among different kinds of species altogether.
That is why black people can give birth to albinos and why Jacob & Esau were different when they were born; Jacob having smooth skinned and Esau being hairy with red hair.
Yep. That's right. Blacks, whites, reds, yellows, browns, etc, all came from Noah & his family.
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So ... if there are 96,000 animals, each one gets 1 square foot of space. I bet the elephants feel reeeeeally comfortable in their 1'x1'x1' cubicle. And let's face it, there had to be a lot more than 96,000 animals considering that's actually only 48,000 different species.
I really don't know why anyone tries validating Noah's Ark these days. I mean, seriously ... it's just too easy to debunk.
Try to recollect; have you not heard of a new species discovered among a species that belongs in that class of species? Have you not heard of a new hybrid?
So why is it so hard to fathom that only two pairs of dogs, male & female, 2 by 2, were needed on the ark for that species to survive from which we have gotten all our variations of dogs from?
But, if you are searching for excuses NOT TO believe, well, that is easy to do, but it doesn't change the fact that God is coming to judge the earth with fire soon just as He has done with the global flood.
I really don't know why anyone tries validating Noah's Ark these days. I mean, seriously ... it's just too easy to debunk.
The only reason ANY of the fables are treated as fact is the "doctrine of demons" belief that the Bible MUST be the 100% literal and inerrant word of God. It is particularly ironic because those who believe in fables are specifically pointed out in the Bible as those who follow false teachers. The contradictions and inconsistencies in the Bible are legion . . . as long as you do NOT test the Spirit of the verses against the Spirit of agape love (who IS God). Of course, in your case, good old fashioned human reason seems to suffice.
You are making an assumption based on your misperception below.
It does not add up because you are assuming that 339 different breeds of dogs has to be on the ark.
Genesis 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. 20 Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.
You only need 2 pairs of dogs, male & female in each pair. You get your varieties soon enough through variations within the species. As it is with the dogs, so it is the same with other species so the number you are thinking of when assuming that different variations within the species are required to be on the ark is wrong & has been greatly reduced when the Bible is referring to the collection among different kinds of species altogether.
That is why black people can give birth to albinos and why Jacob & Esau were different when they were born; Jacob having smooth skinned and Esau being hairy with red hair.
Yep. That's right. Blacks, whites, reds, yellows, browns, etc, all came from Noah & his family.
Try to recollect; have you not heard of a new species discovered among a species that belongs in that class of species? Have you not heard of a new hybrid?
So why is it so hard to fathom that only two pairs of dogs, male & female, 2 by 2, were needed on the ark for that species to survive from which we have gotten all our variations of dogs from?
But, if you are searching for excuses NOT TO believe, well, that is easy to do, but it doesn't change the fact that God is coming to judge the earth with fire soon just as He has done with the global flood.
Romans 1:20-22 Since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what had been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools.
In other words, they thought up foolish ideologies of what God was like.
Noah means, Comfort or repose, not cramped and confined.
Paul was wrong of course. This idea is the argument from ignorance that sprouted up creation myths in every culture. It was the best explanation they could come up with. That, combined with the instinct of the tribe to revere the alpha breeding pair let to a priestly caste exploiting and controlling the scum for their own benefit and with the approval of the alpha pair whose authority was supported by the gods.
We saw this in the divine right of kings to rule and indeed Jesus being rubber - stamped as God - approved messiah at the baptism.
What this gives us is a creation made by the god or gods. Paul was simply taking that for granted, and Paley was simply giving a practical explanation in his watchmaker argument - unaware that by doing so, he was laying the foundation for the debunking of the argument:-
By identifying the watch as a manufactured item and picking it out from the trees, grass and bushes, he was showing that he could tell a designed and created object from naturally -grown ones.
Thus the watchmaker argument is at best an analogy of design in nature, not evidence of it. And analogies, correctly used, explain in an understandable way a fact that is harder to understand but is a fact.
Design in nature is a fact, but a natural one. Crystals grow in solutions, but nobody in their right mind would suggest that a god is designing and creating them. They are following unthinking natural laws which are inherent in all matter and have evolved (no wonder Creationists think evolution also covers Cosmic origins ) through physical unplanned trial and error events. What works, survives as a natural Law. What doesn't work, ceases. Nobody had to make dem laws anyway.
Thus all the arguments for Intelligent Design fail. The distinction between God and nature is forward planning and execution of that plan. Intelligent Design has not been able to make a sound or credible (never mind scientific) case and thus Behe's I/D -I/C is debunked, Paley's watchmaker is debunked and Paul's nature showing God is debunked.
All the evidence is in favour of Evolution and none in favour of creation. As Paul says, we now have no excuse for not realizing that.
Maybe god didn't give a lot of detail but if that's what you want, search the name Eusebius and Noah's Ark.
Throw in freeze dried food .
(Sorry...at this point, to you, it's an inside joke for those that have read so many of his explanations )
There are several threads with Noah's Ark in the title but here's one for you to start with Did a World-Wide Flood in Noah's day Happen?
Don't forget the fact that Noah was a shrewd businessman and nautical engineer as well.
*sings*
"Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale
a tale of a God ordained trip,
that started from this black sea port,
aboard this great big ship.
The mate was a mighty sailin' man,
the Skipper brave and sure,
6000 passengers set sail that day
for a 960 hour tour."
Don't forget the fact that Noah was a shrewd businessman and nautical engineer as well.
*sings*
"Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale
a tale of a God ordained trip,
that started from this black sea port,
aboard this great big ship.
The mate was a mighty sailin' man,
the Skipper brave and sure,
6000 passengers set sail that day
for a 960 hour tour."
And eight of the best and forget the rest
were shipboard, safe and sound.
And two by two
was a ruddy great zoo.
And all the others drowned.
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