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The girls did not sue the baker. They filed a complaint with the State for the discrimination they experienced. The end result was no penalty for the discrimination, but the bakers had to pay damages for publicizing the girls' names, address & emails.
I have to laugh when I see the anti-gay marriage folks use the STD/HIV argument, when common sense tells us that once married and in a monogamous relationship the STD rates among gays will decrease....
Wow, then we should be seeing huge drops in the HIV rate within countries that have had SSM for a decade now. But it looks like the stats remain the same. HIGH. So either they are not staying monogamous or not getting married much. If someone has a nature towards promiscuity, a marriage license probably won't change that nature.
To be quite frank, I couldn't get my head around how a judge could conclude that anyone had been materially damaged to the tune of six figures by the refusal to bake a cake, regardless of the reasons for such refusal. That actually makes sense, though.
Quite obviously, you're yet another who has not bothered to read the details of the case.
I am all for anti discrimination against LGTB, adult and their teenage lover, religious people, any race, any economic status, etc. I am simply responding to the comments of others here about how wrong it is to ALSO discriminate religious organizations/establishments and so on. Feel free to say why you disagree with my comments.
Not sure about that. According to many religions, homosexuality is a sin like any other: killing, cheating, etc.
Yes, maybe the bakers were wrong and they should sell their cakes to whoever: gay couples, an adult with her 13 year old lover, a couple that is cheating, or any other preference/orientation out there. But I find it as wrong for LGTB to be suing religious organizations/establishments, publishers, etc. for not supporting their lifestyle. Let sexual orientations/preference do what they want. Let religious people do what they want. Live and let live.
The the Nth time--baking a cake is not SUPPORTING any lifestyle any more than baking a cake for a parolee is supporting the person's parole.
HIV/AIDS - adult prevalence rate compares the percentage of adults (aged 15-49) living with HIV/AIDS.
RANK COUNTRY (%)
1 Swaziland 27.36
2 Lesotho 22.85
3 Botswana 21.86
4 South Africa 19.05
5 Zimbabwe 14.99
6 Namibia 14.30
7 Zambia 12.50
8 Mozambique 10.75
9 Malawi 10.25
10 Uganda 7.44
11 Equatorial Guinea 6.20
12 Kenya 6.04
13 Tanzania 4.95
14 Cameroon 4.27
15 Gabon 3.90
16 Central African Republic 3.82
17 Guinea-Bissau 3.74
18 Bahamas, The 3.22
19 Nigeria 3.17
20 Rwanda 2.85
21 Cote d'Ivoire 2.67
22 Congo, Republic of the 2.49
23 Chad 2.48
24 Angola 2.35
25 Togo 2.33
26 South Sudan 2.24
27 Haiti 1.97
28 Jamaica 1.75
29 Guinea 1.74
30 Trinidad and Tobago 1.65
31 Sierra Leone 1.55
32 Belize 1.49
33 Guyana 1.38
34 Estonia 1.30
35 Ghana 1.30
36 Ethiopia 1.20
37 Gambia, The 1.20
38 Benin 1.13
39 Mauritius 1.10
40 Liberia 1.09
here are the top 40 nations by HIV prevalence among adults. Clearly Africa must be very gay. Except that there's only one country in Africa which recognizes gay marriage, South Africa, and they legalized it only in 2006. Must be the work of the gay agenda to poison Africa no?
Wow, then we should be seeing huge drops in the HIV rate within countries that have had SSM for a decade now. But it looks like the stats remain the same. HIGH. So either they are not staying monogamous or not getting married much. If someone has a nature towards promiscuity, a marriage license probably won't change that nature.
A 7.8% decrease between 2011 and 2012 and a 18.2% decrease between 2012 and 2004 the year before same sex marriage. That sounds like a decrease in cases in Canada. Most likely the first to get married are those in long term relationships and the ones most likely to be infected are younger men, same as younger heterosexual people tend to have more relationships than older hetrosexual ones.
Its a governement of Canada web site and our government is lead by an evangelical Christian before you discount the source.
From Europe
A cumulative total of 418,100 HIV infections had been diagnosed in Western Europe by the end of 2011. This considerably understates the true figure because not all HIV infections have been diagnosed or reported. This is partly because many people do not know that they are infected. The male-to-female ratio in 2011 was 2.9.Of the reported 26,204 people diagnosed with HIV in Western Europe in 2011:37.9% acquired HIV through heterosexual contact;40.1% became infected through male-to-male sexual contact;4.2% became infected through injecting drug use;0.8% was via mother-to-child transmission;10.1% were 15 to 24 years old;and for 16.7% transmission was unknown - See more at: European HIV & AIDS Statistics | AVERT
The the Nth time--baking a cake is not SUPPORTING any lifestyle any more than baking a cake for a parolee is supporting the person's parole.
I am not saying that baking a cake means someone is supporting. I'll say it again, it doesn't matter what the client will do with the cake: celebrating a LGTB relationship or not, an adult with his/her teenage lover, a person with his animal, or whatever orientation/preference is out there. Doesn't matter if the cake was sold to a religious person who will have a meeting with people to talk about how homosexuality is a sin. Doesn't matter. A baker sells the cake and that's all that should matter to the baker.
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