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Don't you mean the "catholic church disagrees with a lot of the basic fundamentals of protestantism?"
What he really means is that the Catholic Church disagrees with Christianity as he understands it. And of course, he understands it. People with different perspectives do not.
it irks me when people shun what they do not even want to understand.
when people shun what they do not even WANT to understand....
Well, I do know this goes to both parties.... so you irk yourself sometimes???
I have read this entire thread, as a Catholic. I have to say, I am impressed the tone has remained as civil as it has.... I give KUDOS to all the posters involved. It irks me as well, when I have joined in a thread and feel I cannot share I am a Catholic because I will be harassed or told I am not a Chirstian. Most of you might know me from the Prayer Thread... I am there often, and pray daily.... I Do say the Hail Mary... but have NEVER in my life heard of or said that prayer to Mary that one poster mentioned. Please, understand we do not pray TO Mary. I know a lot of people "DO NOT WANT TO UNDERSTAND" our church's teaching out of fear of accepting the fact that we are not evil or as corrupt as other churches might have been teaching....
for instance... My uncle was a priest in Bolivia through MARYKNOLL. Maryknoll: THE U.S. CATHOLIC MISSION MOVEMENT He lived among the people, living in the most minimal of accomidations- huts and cots, dirt floors, illnesses and no doctors.... he had lived through revolutions and disease.... but in the 30 some years he never left (until he had a stroke and was brought home to be cared for)....
I also know we have such Christian Organizations as FOOD FOR THE POOR come to our Church and talk to us.... educating us.... asking us for donation...why would we do that if we were not Christian and believed such things?
Then every Diocese has the Catholic Family Service which is a private not-for-profit agency that provides a wide range of services for those individuals in need.... no matter what your situation... no matter WHO you are.... Example:Catholic Family Center
i sure do, but never-ever without good reason or with malignant intent!
Or because you do not want to understand?
... I understand your great disdain for those individuals who attend the Church. You have made that OBVIOUSLY clear many times... I know your opinion..... and your lack for WANTING to understand..... There are few things that will get me worked up and visibly upset on here.... but people telling me I do not believe in Jesus Christ is one of them..... I am a Christian..... and proud of it....
... I understand your great disdain for those individuals who attend the Church.
if it is i who caused you such an understanding, this would be very regrettable. i try to challenge intents expressed in opinions supposedly being truth from a higher authority called god in order to coerce whomever into obedience, docile following and submission.
that this has nothing to do with church attendance per se, should be self-understood.
(imho, used excessively!)
You have made that OBVIOUSLY clear many times...
and since either attacked (rather seldom) or ignored (mostly) with the accusatory excuse of my language not being understandable and/or causing confusion, the impression of it SEEMING so can safely, but not truly, manifest ....!!!
given the limitations of online discussions (we do not know each other, cannot see and hear each other), complex thinking on impressions coming from words only can be very misleading, and i try to include this in all my considerations, before posting.
no personal attacks, no unjustifiable insinuations!
I know your opinion..... and your lack for WANTING to understand.....
and i know this to be an indirect attack and extremely dangerous: you may want me to be left to the market forces to decide my futher fate!
There are few things that will get me worked up and visibly upset on here.... but people telling me I do not believe in Jesus Christ is one of them..... I am a Christian..... and proud of it....
no problem with that. i think you would find no proof in any of my posts saying otherwise.
Bibles used by Catholics differ in the number and order of books from those typically found in bibles used by Protestants, as Catholic bibles remained unchanged following the Reformation and so retain seven books that were rejected principally by Martin Luther.
Seriously. I used to sit in a location at work not far from the desk of a Methodist minister's son. He liked to talk about Christianity. He seemed to hold it in a different light and make an off-handed comment about Catholics not being Christian.
I kept it to myself but thought it was so stupid that I couldn't get mad.
To me, any religion whose scriptural works are ONLY and BOTH the Old Testament and the New Testament, with the emphasis that your faith is put in practice largely through the New Testament, is a Christian religion. Period.
I'm not a religious expert, but I don't know what to make of religions that profess to be Christian but have OTHER books. I just don't know.
So, are Catholics Christians in your mind?
Christians who keep Christmas and Easter, and Sunday as the Sabbath prove with out any doubt that they are in fact, Catholic.
No Protestant who keeps what is wholly Catholic law instituted by the church can say he is not Catholic what ever he says, he is Catholic if he keeps Christmas, Easter, and the Sunday Sabbath.
He proves WITHOUT A DOUBT who his AUTHORITY is ABOVE GOD, what the Catholic's instituted was their own law where they had all the authority to change or omit any of the word of God they chose, even to invalidating the worship system of God to institute their own feasts, with their own laws concerning their own people who kept the laws of the Catholic church in all it's Holy days and traditions with it's Sabbaths which are all separated from the ways of God and appointed accordingly not to fall on the Holy feasts of God.
What every Protestant follows is wholly Catholic proving without a doubt that they are Catholic, I have explained this to the members of my own family who speak against Catholics and when they speak against Catholics, they speak against themselves.
Bibles used by Catholics differ in the number and order of books from those typically found in bibles used by Protestants, as Catholic bibles remained unchanged following the Reformation and so retain seven books that were rejected principally by Martin Luther.
Martin Luther was a devout Catholic Monk who became outraged and as a result revolted against the Catholic Church.
Amazing video's that address the true history of Christianity are below
Please see following video's
A Lamp in the Dark
and
Tare's among the Wheat
Those will give you a good idea of the differences!
Protestants, mainly low church evangelical and fundamentalists, usually claim that the Catholic Church changed the Bible, and the 10 Commandments, and that they righted the wrong - which gave rise to the King James Version of the bible.. (which is the only unadulterated and uncorrupted form of the bible according to them)
But on the OP, a lot has changed since 2008-9 when this thread was last active.
Things have probably intensified, which could even mean we are in "the last days", or "end of times" madness, the so-called Rapture.
You only have to look at the number of youtube videos that make such claims, and have evangelicals attacking Catholics:
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I think the question that needs to be asked is "What makes one a Christian?" I think people are talking past each other.
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