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The OT condemns the usage of statues, icons( little metal cross) graven images--a hand carved Jesus on a cross above the pulpit--many bow to it--it is a graven image--Jesus is sitting on his throne in heaven, he isn't in any image.
The NT teaches---Do NOT call any man-Father( in a spiritual teachers sense)--Pope is called--holy Father---God is the holy Father not the Pope. The Pope is a sinner. Priests are called Father as well.
Those 2 things make that religion Far removed from God and his son---Not to mention the spiritual teachers and Pope allowed the young catholic men to kill other catholic young men who stood on the allied side for a mass murderer named-HITLER.
All who know Jesus, know for sure--these things are in opposition to Gods will.
The OT condemns the usage of statues, icons( little metal cross) graven images--a hand carved Jesus on a cross above the pulpit--many bow to it--it is a graven image--Jesus is sitting on his throne in heaven, he isn't in any image.
The NT teaches---Do NOT call any man-Father( in a spiritual teachers sense)--Pope is called--holy Father---God is the holy Father not the Pope. The Pope is a sinner. Priests are called Father as well.
Those 2 things make that religion Far removed from God and his son---Not to mention the spiritual teachers and Pope allowed the young catholic men to kill other catholic young men who stood on the allied side for a mass murderer named-HITLER.
All who know Jesus, know for sure--these things are in opposition to Gods will.
Not sure whether you are talking of your pacifist stance as a JW, ie against all wars and military service, or suggesting the Catholic Church had something to do with the war itself.
It is no secret Hitler was a Catholic, but nobody supports his behavior and what he did, or that the RCC were complicit in his crimes.
Not sure whether you are talking of your pacifist stance as a JW, ie against all wars and military service, or suggesting the Catholic Church had something to do with the war itself.
It is no secret Hitler was a Catholic, but nobody supports his behavior and what he did, or that the RCC were complicit in his crimes.
In 1933, Eugenio Pacelli, the future Pope Pius XII, made a deal with Hitler in which Catholic freedoms would be preserved under the Third Reich. Part of the deal was the dissolution of the Catholic Party and Catholic trade unions. Shortly after, Hitler began to target Catholics, though not on the level he did Jews, and by 1937 Rome realized what a mistake had been made.
Pius XI wrote an encyclical denouncing harassment of the Church and condemning Nazi racism that was smuggled into Germany to be read from all Catholic pulpits on Palm Sunday 1937.
In 1938, Hitler went to visit Mussolini in Italy. The Pope left town, churches were not decorated for his visit, and the Vatican museums were closed as a sign of protest.
For people to declare that the RCC supported Hitler and what he did shows a lack of knowledge.
Seriously. I used to sit in a location at work not far from the desk of a Methodist minister's son. He liked to talk about Christianity. He seemed to hold it in a different light and make an off-handed comment about Catholics not being Christian.
I kept it to myself but thought it was so stupid that I couldn't get mad.
To me, any religion whose scriptural works are ONLY and BOTH the Old Testament and the New Testament, with the emphasis that your faith is put in practice largely through the New Testament, is a Christian religion. Period.
I'm not a religious expert, but I don't know what to make of religions that profess to be Christian but have OTHER books. I just don't know.
So, are Catholics Christians in your mind?
People ask me that question all the time (about me)..
I always ask them what does a "christian"look like?
In 1933, Eugenio Pacelli, the future Pope Pius XII, made a deal with Hitler in which Catholic freedoms would be preserved under the Third Reich. Part of the deal was the dissolution of the Catholic Party and Catholic trade unions. Shortly after, Hitler began to target Catholics, though not on the level he did Jews, and by 1937 Rome realized what a mistake had been made.
Pius XI wrote an encyclical denouncing harassment of the Church and condemning Nazi racism that was smuggled into Germany to be read from all Catholic pulpits on Palm Sunday 1937.
In 1938, Hitler went to visit Mussolini in Italy. The Pope left town, churches were not decorated for his visit, and the Vatican museums were closed as a sign of protest.
For people to declare that the RCC supported Hitler and what he did shows a lack of knowledge.
Really? Ever check out the information on how many Nazis criminals they helped smuggle into Argentina after the war? The RCC was, and always has been, for itself and the continuation of itself, first and foremost, and if a little "hiccup" like WW2 happens, they certainly didn't want to be counted among those destined for the gas chambers, like the Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, infirm, handicapped, and whoever just "looked wrong" on that day. I doubt the Pope left town in protest, he likely feared being added to the list on one of Hitler's whims. Peace
Really? Ever check out the information on how many Nazis criminals they helped smuggle into Argentina after the war? The RCC was, and always has been, for itself and the continuation of itself, first and foremost, and if a little "hiccup" like WW2 happens, they certainly didn't want to be counted among those destined for the gas chambers, like the Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, infirm, handicapped, and whoever just "looked wrong" on that day. I doubt the Pope left town in protest, he likely feared being added to the list on one of Hitler's whims. Peace
Take it up with Diarmaid Macculloch. I'll take his word as an objective and renowned church historian over that of a prejudiced Internet warrior who seeks only to divide and be generally disagreeable, insipid Peaces at the end of every post notwithstanding.
In 1933, Eugenio Pacelli, the future Pope Pius XII, made a deal with Hitler in which Catholic freedoms would be preserved under the Third Reich. Part of the deal was the dissolution of the Catholic Party and Catholic trade unions. Shortly after, Hitler began to target Catholics, though not on the level he did Jews, and by 1937 Rome realized what a mistake had been made.
Pius XI wrote an encyclical denouncing harassment of the Church and condemning Nazi racism that was smuggled into Germany to be read from all Catholic pulpits on Palm Sunday 1937.
In 1938, Hitler went to visit Mussolini in Italy. The Pope left town, churches were not decorated for his visit, and the Vatican museums were closed as a sign of protest.
For people to declare that the RCC supported Hitler and what he did shows a lack of knowledge.
".., made a deal with HITLER in which CATHOLIC FREEDOMS WOULD BE PRESERVED UNDER THE THIRD REICH",..
".., made a deal with HITLER in which CATHOLIC FREEDOMS WOULD BE PRESERVED UNDER THE THIRD REICH",..
I bet the Jewish People were happy about that.
I doubt that in 1933 the Jews in Germany took notice or cared about what the Catholic Church was doing. They were looking to get the hell out of Dodge. Many did. Not enough.
Take it up with Diarmaid Macculloch. I'll take his word as an objective and renowned church historian over that of a prejudiced Internet warrior who seeks only to divide and be generally disagreeable, insipid Peaces at the end of every post notwithstanding.
Lol Macculloch is GAY. Doesn't the Word of God speak against this as a sin? Of course it does.
Then why on earth would you listen to someone who doesn't listen to the Bible?
I doubt that in 1933 the Jews in Germany took notice or cared about what the Catholic Church was doing. They were looking to get the hell out of Dodge. Many did. Not enough.
"Hell" came to "Dodge"- It's not like someone sent out a flyer promoting they're coming deaths. And your right they didn't care about your church- cause your church did NOTHING to stop the deaths.
Not a Dam thing!
It's insulting to even listen to you justify their actions over they're DEATHS!!
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