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Old 03-05-2008, 08:44 AM
 
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Surely these are questions any rational, reasonable, intelligent person has a right to an answer to, not just a pat on the head from God, saying we dont understand all his ways.
My little daughter doesn't understand why I have to go to work every day, and why I can't just stay home all day and read to her and play with puzzles or play-doh or build a tent with chairs and a blanket over the top in the living room...

Yet this doesn't cause her to question my love for her.

 
Old 03-05-2008, 09:04 AM
 
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My little daughter doesn't understand why I have to go to work every day, and why I can't just stay home all day and read to her and play with puzzles or play-doh or build a tent with chairs and a blanket over the top in the living room...

Yet this doesn't cause her to question my love for her.
...and yet, this also doesn't make you a deity. See where I'm going with this?
 
Old 03-05-2008, 09:10 AM
 
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...and yet, this also doesn't make you a deity. See where I'm going with this?
A little child has the best concept of what God is.
 
Old 03-05-2008, 09:21 AM
 
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A little child has the best concept of what God is.
A little child has no concept of a deity until an adult tells them the nice fairy tales.
 
Old 03-05-2008, 09:26 AM
 
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A little child has no concept of a deity until an adult tells them the nice fairy tales.
I don't think you're quite getting the point... a young child's love for her father "understands" even when she doesn't (in the example I gave). That is how my love for God is (or should be!)

Like a little child... that is the only way to understand.
 
Old 03-05-2008, 09:39 AM
 
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People who hear voices rarely believe that they are not real. It doesn't make it true, though, no matter how much they say they can prove it.
Voice, the ONE of the Holy Spirit...

Not voices.....


godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 03-05-2008, 09:43 AM
 
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I agree with what some have said here, sometimes the problem is that non-believers and even believers at times, turn to another human being for the answers to why some bad things happen. There is no possible way that I as a human being can know precisely why something bad has happened to someone, I sometimes can't even understand why it has happened to myself or my own family. I do however know that if you turn to God and ask him why something has happened, what purpose it is to serve in your life or what is to be learned from it, He does have the answers.

God never said not to question him. The bible simply states not to Test God (other than in the area of tithing which is the only place that he says to test him). Testing him and questioning him are two very different things. As someone else stated, God tells us that if we seek we shall find, if we ask we shall receive and if we knock the door shall be opened to us. We need to seek these answers for ourselves in our situations, we need to ask him to reveal his purposes to us and to do all this we need to knock on his door and know he will be there to open it up for us.

God desires a relationship with his children, it is up to us to do our part and seek that relationship with him as well.

When it comes to bad things happening, in my own personal life, I just try to remember that just as there is a God who desires good things for us and gives us good things, there is also an enemy out there that seeks to destroy us. But given that, God can take that which the enemy meant for bad and turn it to good. But we must seek him out and give all things to him in order for that to be accomplished.
 
Old 03-05-2008, 12:31 PM
 
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Its not my place to convince, and it is better to ask if i am being truthful than assuming i am not.

What i shared with you is not a form of meditation, it is an excercise in discovering your spiritual energy.

As to a new conclusion, why would i need a new one when i have found thee one.

godspeed,

freedom
How can you be truthful to yourself if you're refusing to question what you believe?

By the way, "thee" isn't the word you're looking for, it's "the".
 
Old 03-05-2008, 01:14 PM
 
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How can you be truthful to yourself if you're refusing to question what you believe?

By the way, "thee" isn't the word you're looking for, it's "the".
I believe water quenches my thirst, do i have to question it? It is a truth to me, so it is a waste of time to doubt.
Each truth builds upon another, until we reach all truth. So i question the things i don't know, not the things i do know.

Thee is an old English phrasing, and i like it...


godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 03-05-2008, 01:51 PM
 
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You can't compare sustenance to your belief in God.

"Thee" is the objective form of "thou". It is not a substitute for "the". Grammar doesn't care what you like.
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