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Old 05-22-2016, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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Imagine if you went up to a friend and had a conversation like this:

You: Hey Jane, how are you? I want to tell you about a new friend I just met. They have given me such peace in life just by meeting them.
Friend: Really? Wow, sounds great, they must be special. When did you meet this person?
You: Well actually we have never met in person.
Friend: Really? So you have never spoken over the phone or e-mailed or met in person?
You: No, not really, but I have a strong connection to this person and a relationship with them.
Friend: Wow, sounds different.
You: Yeah, it's not like other relationships people have, it's special.
Friend: So just to clarify, you have never met or spoken IN person or communicated by letter and such?
You: Nope. This relationship is so different.
Friend: (Thinking to themselves....how in the world can they think they have a relationship? They haven't even met or anything else. Seems creepy to me. I think my friend is maybe having some issues about making stuff up including so called "friendships" and "relationships". Sounds like they could use some help from somebody who works with these issues.)

Christians: You have a personal relationship with YOURSELVES and YOUR THOUGHTS. Accept this and realize the whole "personal relationship with Jesus" is not only creepy but delusional. The only so called relationship you are having is with an IDEA not a REALITY.
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Old 05-22-2016, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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Add in the little detail that said person has been dead for 2000 years.
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Old 05-22-2016, 09:44 AM
 
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Add in the little detail that said person has been dead for 2000 years.
And this new friend who you haven't met, let alone introduced to your other friend, already loves them.
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:09 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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And this new friend who you haven't met, let alone introduced to your other friend, already loves them.
And is going to burn them if they don't love him back.
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Old 05-22-2016, 11:21 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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There is an active thread right now in the Relationships forum started by a woman who had a 2 year "relationship" with a man she had never met in person. They "met" online and have communicated via email, text, and phone calls. She has recently learned he is married, despite having told her otherwise. People are telling her they did not in fact have a relationship, that she shouldn't have fallen in love with someone she had never even met, that her perceptions of who he is was all her own fantasy.

It is easy to see that she was deluding herself in this "relationship".

But the personal relationship with Jesus doesn't even have email, texts, or phone calls.
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Old 05-22-2016, 11:35 AM
 
Location: USA
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Yes it's creepy.

I stopped having imaginary friends when I was about 7 years old.
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Old 05-22-2016, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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.......The only so called relationship you are having is with an IDEA not a REALITY.
And?
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Old 05-22-2016, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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I do not have any personal relationship with Jesus.
But, there sure are some NDErs that do...many were atheists before they
met him on the Other Side.
I do not see ANY reason for them to lie about what happened to them or what
Jesus seemed like to them...a hugely comfortable guy that exuded immense love.

It seems an atheist would love to come back and say..."There's nothing over there, ha...just blackness and weirdness....just like I thought."
But, no.

This has greatly influenced me...that he is not an 'idea'...but a beautiful brother
that is on the Other side...just like my uncle is that drops in to visit me from time to time....but, Jesus would be on a bit of a Higher Sphere...
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Old 05-22-2016, 03:40 PM
 
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Imagine if you went up to a friend and had a conversation like this:

You: Hey Jane, how are you? I want to tell you about a new friend I just met. They have given me such peace in life just by meeting them.
Friend: Really? Wow, sounds great, they must be special. When did you meet this person?
You: Well actually we have never met in person.
Friend: Really? So you have never spoken over the phone or e-mailed or met in person?
You: No, not really, but I have a strong connection to this person and a relationship with them.
Friend: Wow, sounds different.
You: Yeah, it's not like other relationships people have, it's special.
Friend: So just to clarify, you have never met or spoken IN person or communicated by letter and such?
You: Nope. This relationship is so different.
Friend: (Thinking to themselves....how in the world can they think they have a relationship? They haven't even met or anything else. Seems creepy to me. I think my friend is maybe having some issues about making stuff up including so called "friendships" and "relationships". Sounds like they could use some help from somebody who works with these issues.)

Christians: You have a personal relationship with YOURSELVES and YOUR THOUGHTS. Accept this and realize the whole "personal relationship with Jesus" is not only creepy but delusional. The only so called relationship you are having is with an IDEA not a REALITY.
Well...I can tell by your post that Christian Beliefs really bother you a lot and cause you angst.
That's a tough one...since a third of the world is Christian and it veritably permeates the planet, especially the United States, and Texas is a Poster-Child of Christianity. Unless you stay holed up in your home (don't watch television), it will be in your face, everywhere you look...a constant reminder.
Since you are, in fact, helpless and powerless to do a thing about that...I hope you are able to reconcile your negative feelings about it.
Good luck to you...you are gonna need it.
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Old 05-22-2016, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I always thought it was code for, "I'd rather watch football on Sunday."
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