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Originally Posted by Hannibal Flavius
Jesus says that anyone who keeps the laws of Moses and teaches others to keep the laws of Moses will be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven but most Christians wont believe this.
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First of all, sorry this is so long winded. But just this sentence^^^ alone, encompasses so much
Jesus didn’t come to abolish the Laws of Moses, He came
to fulfill OT laws
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...7&version=NASB
BUT...we are still to strive to keep the ethical and moral laws with the guidance of the holy spirit. Not sure why that is confusing.
Since the greatest commandments of all were instituted in the New Testament by our God himself, aka Jesus
We don't need to get too legalistic about following OT laws UNLESS re-iterated in the NT aka the New covenant
OLD LAWS, the OLD Covenant/, The Old Testament laws need to be understood
as the foundation to keeping the the two greatest laws of all
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...hew%2022:36-40
36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the great and [a]foremost commandment. 39 The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”
There are 613 Moses (Mosaic) OT laws combined all together and only 24 hrs in a day.
Moral and Ethical laws stand but again, fall under the umbrella of the
two greatest commandments.
Without Jesus shedding blood JUST ONCE as our ONCE AND FOR ALL sacrifice, animals would still need to die.
Shedding it's blood for each sin commited by humans.
Without Jesus, we'd rake up “tickets” which only damn us.
Some tickets are large and face huge penalties like murder, adultery, etc.. and others not as much.
But they accumulate. Kinda like if CPS comes out to your house. You are NEVER innocent,
it goes on record to pile up against you as part of the FULL STORY.
CPS gets involved again, even a decade later, and they see you had "issues' before.
Jesus became our animal sacrifice dying once and for all so we can be viewed by God as pure and innocent.
Even when we stumble and sin.
Yes even then.
BUT....the bible also tells us we will be conforming to the image of God, thus overall, sinning LESS.
If not, then we weren't saved to begin with.
Once saved always saved. Christ died Once for Always.
Jesus died to fulfill the ceremonial laws. The Rituals if you will. Those commands
not found in the New Covenant.
We are to adhere to the Moral and Ethical laws which are repeated in the New Covenant (new testament)
EXAMPLE-
Remember the Sabbath Day to make it holy- OT Law
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...11&version=KJV
VERSUS
One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Romans 14:5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind.
That means someone who considers the Sabbath Day and makes it holy, is fine as they are fully convinced in their own mind. Another who chooses a different day of the week to make holy, is
also ok as long
as they are fully convinced in their own mind. As God in the flesh is the "lord of the sabbath", he is the author behind those laws.
POINT? Obviously it is to set aside one day a week to make it holy.
Why people don’t want to understand we are to still teach and keep certain laws of Moses, despite them being repeated in the NT, alludes me. Of course we cannot keep the laws of Moses fully thru human effort.
But that is why the Holy Spirit slowly conforms us to Christ (Col 3), so it will be A natural way of living.
If you run into someone who IS NOT familiar with the book of Hebrews then they may want to cling to Old Laws that don’t apply anymore
The laws that oppressed and damned Gods people
Not understanding Jesus came to fulfill those laws and to prevent our damnation
They spend their time clinging to legalistic rituals instead of glorifying god, it becomes all about them.
Self Centered. Then boasting starts. These people are just mimicking the OT Pharisees
So they want to teach and cling to OT law instead of heeding the greatest commandment of all,
which is given in the NT/New Covenant-the law of LOVE.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...hew%2022:36-40
Jesus butted heads with legalistic pharisees over their “interpretation” of the OT laws anyhow.
They didn’t even understand them. They damned people so are a waste of time spent.
These Old lws were only meant to be “our tutor” or “our guardian” to keep us healthy and safe
until Christ died and rose again. Then the new covenant took affect-
Galatians 3:24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith.
Without understanding the OT laws, where they fail, how flawed they were regarding eternity, how dangerous they were (they only damned us) and how it helps us understand the gravity of our sin, it makes it more difficult to fully grasp the New Testament and it’s laws.
How those are fulfilled, how we stills drive to keep the laws which are remaining (with the guidance of the Holy Spirit) yet understanding the most important commands are to love the lord god with all your heart and soul, then the second greatest command to love your neighbor as yourself. Because if you love your neighbor, you will witness the good news to them to prevent them from remaining estranged from their Father for life. Not to mention you can never have enough brothers and sisters :thumbs: