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Not really a subject for this thread. Take it as a statement of faith and what poster means by "Christian," a fairly narrow view and one heavily weighted with doctrines of men.
Excuse me but I'd like to answer the question asked of me.
Please do not determine what is ok for this forum and what is not, if you don't mind
As pointed out, the faith Muhammed taught is Islam and it's followers are known as muslim. The authority for Islam is Qu'ran, although there is a secondary source known as Hadith or sayings of the Prophet and the Sunna or accounts of his daily practices.
The Bible gives the Spirit as "guide."
How widespread is this secondary source?
The bible is huge and testifies to itself that it is much more than a Guide.
2 TImothy- All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
He also stated that simple sentence aka question was NOT the subject of this thread, which it is not.
If you don't want me to answer, that's fine.
Arguing about answering a quick simple question isn't worth my time
I was just trying to let you know that a thread is different from a forum...As it is not permitted to post a politics thread in a religion forum it is also not permitted to take a thread off topic...A forum is a collection of different topics...
I am trying to find the greek word for that. Apparently there are a few definitions.
πληρῶσαι [plerosai]...
"Fulfill the Law" as a Rabbinic Idiom
It will help us greatly to know that the phrase "fulfill the Torah" is a rabbinic idiom that is still in use even today. The word we read as "law" is torah in Hebrew, and its main sense is teaching, guidance and instruction, rather than legal regulation. It is God's instructions for living, and because of God's great authority, it demands obedience and therefore takes on the sense of "law." The Torah is often understood to mean the first five books of the Bible, but also refers to the Scriptures in general. In Jesus' time, and among Jews today, this is a very positive thing - that the God who made us would give us instructions for how to live.1 The rabbis made it their goal to understand these instructions fully and teach people how to live by it.
The translation of "to fulfill" is lekayem in Hebrew (le-KAI-yem), which means to uphold or establish, as well as to fulfill, complete or accomplish.2 David Bivin has pointed out that the phrase "fulfill the Law" is often used as an idiom to mean to properly interpret the Torah so that people can obey it as God really intends. The word "abolish" was likely either levatel, to nullify, or la'akor, to uproot, which meant to undermine the Torah by misinterpreting it. For example, the law against adultery could be interpreted as specifically against cheating on one's spouse, but not about pornography. When Jesus declared that lust also was a violation of the commandment, he was clarifying the true intent of that law, so in rabbinic parlance he was "fulfilling the Law." In contrast, if a pastor told his congregation that watching x-rated videos was fine, he would be "abolishing the Law" - causing them to not live as God wants them to live. Here are a couple examples of this usage from around Jesus' time: - What Does It Mean to "Fulfill the Law"?
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But I am curious as to why you ask.
Because most people have the wrong idea of what it means...
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Do you really think that you can fulfill all 603 of these OT these laws yourself?
It's 613 and not all of them are meant for everyone, some for only the priests, some for farmers, etc...
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Are you educated enough to know EXACTLY WHICH animals to sacrifice when you fail each time?
Why yes, I am...I'm also educated enough to know that it doesn't have to be an animal all the time either...Could be an efah of flour...
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Meaning if you don't believe Jesus actually FULFILLed the OT laws on your behalf
This does not mean what you think it means...
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