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Old 03-28-2019, 05:09 PM
 
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Because God, in his infinite wisdom, decided it was more efficient to hand down a long set of complicated rules that we could never hope to obey than to simply give us a more efficient "rutting" cycle.
If for our discussion's sake, we are saying that God has "infinite wisdom" then technically speaking, there is no way you can win from God. There is no way you can judge God and decide whether he is right or wrong, there is no way you can outwit God, there is no way you criticize whatever God decides to do.

So far as the rules go.
I don't think they are as complicated as you are portraying them to be.
The lines are drawn, boundaries are set. We are given freedom in many things, and at the same time limitations are imposed on us.
We pretty much all know the basics of what's right and what's not right.


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This is how God always deals with his own failures. He completely fubar'ed the human reproduction system so he had to litter the sex act with landmines called STDs to make everyone obey rules that can't be reasonably obeyed. Whenever he fails, he does this sort of thing, foisting the blame onto humans and then sending his little curses with which to punish us.
Read the underline above.
Another classical point of view by an Atheist, of which, I am not sure is laughable or ironic?
You want God to operate as per YOUR wishes and as per what YOU think the way it should've been done - while ironically speaking, we are also saying in the same breath that, "God has infinite wisdom".

You can't stop your eyes from blinking for more than 10 minutes. You get sick if you don't fart for several times a day.
What are you and what is your worth? A loathe of rotting flesh and decaying bones buried 6 feet under the dust after your time is up.
And you want God to obey as per YOUR wishes and YOUR wisdom? lol


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Precisely my point. Because of STDs, you can't be safe unless you don't have any sort of sex until you're married - and then only with your spouse for the rest of your life. Assuming the spouse doesn't have an STD when you marry him/her.
No, this was MY point.
God does not stop you from sex. God regulates it.
You want to follow or not follow the guidelines, is YOUR choice.
You wanna have sex with a prostitute or with a monkey? God will not come down to earth and stop you. However, don't complain that "You didn't warn me?"

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Never mind the fact that marriage was invented when a person's lifespan was 30-something years old. Now it's 3x as long. We weren't "designed" biologically to mate for life.
Once adulthood is reached, marriage hardly has any age bearing.
The idea of marriage (ESPECIALLY for MEN) is that, you want to poke that honey pot? Show some sense of responsibility. Take the woman's hand in marriage, show faithfulness and monogamy, raise a family and provide for the family.
Woman are also asked to save themselves for marriage.

Again, you want follow the guidance or not, is YOUR choice. You don't wanna take any responsibility and just want that coochie left and right and treat women like napkins? Your choice.
If a woman wants to open her legs to every man she likes, and want to act as a napkin? Her own choice. Do it.


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Of course it's not really God's guidance. The way this whole scenario plays out is too stupid for there to be an intelligence behind it. As is most things that occur in nature.
Read the underline above.


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God doesn't do anything at all since Yahweh doesn't exist. It was St. Augustine who came up with most of the stygma involving sexual activity. Now we're the most sexually repressed nation in the Western world since religion is obsessed with sex. That's all the clergy really thinks about - probably because half of them are guilty of sex crimes and the other half guilty of sexual indiscretions.
That's sounds more like Christian doctrine, and since I don't adhere to Christian theology, I can't speak for it.
However, I don't think religion is the cause of sexual repression in United States. Most kids in our schools start having sex at the age of 12. Not sure how is this sexual repression?

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It's a wonder that God didn't make us all pyromaniacs and then send down a huge list of rules regarding fire safety that we're supposed to follow.
God made us in whichever way he wanted. (read the underline above)

Logically, philosophically and practically speaking,
When a creator decides to create something, he does NOT ask his creation how to create it BEFORE creating it.
He just creates it the way he wants it.

Have you ever heard of a carpenter asking a chair, "How to create you?" BEFORE creating it?


YESSS !!! we have been handed with the stuff and YESSS !!! we are locked into it. There isn't much we could've done to stop that from happening. We couldn't stop our creation and we could't stop our birth.

The idea now is, since we are here, lets deal with it.
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Old 04-03-2019, 01:49 PM
 
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That's sounds more like Christian doctrine, and since I don't adhere to Christian theology, I can't speak for it.
However, I don't think religion is the cause of sexual repression in United States. Most kids in our schools start having sex at the age of 12. Not sure how is this sexual repression?

I think that's more of a historical context issue. I do believe that the sexual repression in the United States tends to be exaggerated a little bit in speaking about modern times.
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Old 04-03-2019, 10:25 PM
 
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You folks have got it all wrong. Sex IS heaven.
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Old 04-04-2019, 05:34 AM
 
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You folks have got it all wrong. Sex IS heaven.
Then why do xian pray that their loved ones don’t die?

Wouldn’t every single person race to the perpetual orgasm?
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Old 04-04-2019, 07:47 AM
 
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Then why do xian pray that their loved ones don’t die?

Wouldn’t every single person race to the perpetual orgasm?
You seem to have misunderstood.

He didn't say heaven is sex.
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Old 04-06-2019, 12:22 AM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Pretty interesting question , but how can spiritual bodies have sexual relations whén there is neither male nor female in the spirit.
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Old 04-06-2019, 08:41 AM
 
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Pretty interesting question , but how can spiritual bodies have sexual relations whén there is neither male nor female in the spirit.
You know this how?
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Old 04-06-2019, 08:44 AM
 
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You know this how?
Because it is well know from the little info from the instructional book that you are not who you are and what makes you you here on earth. You are something completely different in heaven with no free will.


Amen
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Old 04-06-2019, 08:59 AM
 
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Pretty interesting question , but how can spiritual bodies have sexual relations whén there is neither male nor female in the spirit.
I think our bodies will not be 100% spiritual as we perceive now.

We will have our physical bodies as we have now WITHOUT the flaws and short comings. There will be no aging process, we will be at our peak and we will always remain at our peak. Our hearts will be permanently cleaned from any malice, greed, hatred, ill or evil feelings towards anyone else. We won’t won’t excrete or urinate, and there won’t be any bad smell of any kind.

There will be absolutely no worries, no responsibilities and no job or duties of any kind - no more mandatory worshiping of God either.

And there will all different kinds of foods and fruits with no possibility of gaining unwanted weight or getting any kind of disease. There will be an unimaginably high class of wine that won’t have any hang over and it will not turn you into an animal. It will be pure joy with no ill effects.


We will look as pretty and as good looking as whichever way we wish to be.

And there will be unlimited amount of sex. Everyone will be young and strong and everyone will love it. You won’t have to wait after an orgasm to go for round 2 or 3 or 100 or million. Just pure joy, available to you 24/7 all year around for infinity.

We won’t feel the need of having any kids so females won’t get pregnant. There is no child births and no pains in heaven.

If this is not heaven, then what else is?
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Old 04-06-2019, 09:13 AM
 
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[...]

And there will all different kinds of foods and fruits with no possibility of gaining unwanted weight or getting any kind of disease. There will be an unimaginably high class of wine that won’t have any hang over and it will not turn you into an animal. It will be pure joy with no ill effects.

We will look as pretty and as good looking as whichever way we wish to be.

And there will be unlimited amount of sex. Everyone will be young and strong and everyone will love it. You won’t have to wait after an orgasm to go for round 2 or 3 or 100 or million. Just pure joy, available to you 24/7 all year around for infinity.

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I’m sorry but this is a child’s view of heaven. Will your senses ever be satisfied, will your desire for sensual pleasure ever go away? Or will you still long for more and more and more?

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If this is not heaven, then what else is?
The only satisfaction that will be found for the longing in everyman’s heart, is intellectual union with the Infinite and Eternal source of all Being and Truth (God).
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