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Old 01-19-2018, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Yes, Christians and Jews worship the Abrahamic God.
It sure don't look that way from where I am sitting. I have sat here for that last 15 years and watched just how much things have changed. It is nothing for a Christian to bad mouth God in these days, they speak against his commandments and I have seen AT LEAST 3 people call him a barbaric God and I am not speaking of Atheists, but people who actually say they believe in some type of Jesus but they don't believe in the father. Christianity has changed so much in the last decade as to become lawless, I mean if there was ever a lawless day we had been waiting on, today is that day. A lawless people who would spit on the God of the bible.
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Old 01-20-2018, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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...is completely irrelevant to the question.

Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all rooted in the same beginnings and are based on the same [supposed] 'god'...which is something that makes the animosity between these groups hilarious (apart from the fact that many ignorant/innocent people are dying because of it, a tragedy that is a major indicator that none of them are 'right').
Correct. That's why they're called the Abrahamic faiths.

It's irrelevant, however, that they share the same deity, as they all think their understanding of that deity is right and the others are wrong.
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Old 01-20-2018, 09:55 PM
 
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Correct. That's why they're called the Abrahamic faiths.

It's irrelevant, however, that they share the same deity, as they all think their understanding of that deity is right and the others are wrong.
That is not correct. Judaism recognizes that everyone has access to God no particular religion needed no particular teacher needed. It is only Islam and Crstnty that insist a person must go through JC or must venerate Mhamd.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:04 PM
 
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It sure don't look that way from where I am sitting. I have sat here for that last 15 years and watched just how much things have changed. It is nothing for a Christian to bad mouth God in these days, they speak against his commandments and I have seen AT LEAST 3 people call him a barbaric God and I am not speaking of Atheists, but people who actually say they believe in some type of Jesus but they don't believe in the father. Christianity has changed so much in the last decade as to become lawless, I mean if there was ever a lawless day we had been waiting on, today is that day. A lawless people who would spit on the God of the bible.
This happens because people do not understand the meaning of God in Christianity and Judaism
The reason is that there is a wave to destroy the Christian concept to God
This wave is also supported by Muslims, which is regrettable
Muslims support every movement to support their desire to destroy Christianity and Judaism
But God will remain loving
Is one of the most important characteristics of Christianity
Christianity and Judaism are one building
Abraham announced his idea and received persecution
And also the forgery of Muhammadism
The word of God in the Gospel will remain the best of human thought
Of the teachings of peace and love
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Old 01-21-2018, 04:06 AM
 
Location: US
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This happens because people do not understand the meaning of God in Christianity and Judaism
The reason is that there is a wave to destroy the Christian concept to God
This wave is also supported by Muslims, which is regrettable
Muslims support every movement to support their desire to destroy Christianity and Judaism
But God will remain loving
Is one of the most important characteristics of Christianity
Christianity and Judaism are one building
Abraham announced his idea and received persecution
And also the forgery of Muhammadism
The word of God in the Gospel will remain the best of human thought
Of the teachings of peace and love
I understand G-d in Judaism...
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Old 01-21-2018, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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That is not correct. Judaism recognizes that everyone has access to God no particular religion needed no particular teacher needed. It is only Islam and Crstnty that insist a person must go through JC or must venerate Mhamd.
Is that the attitude of orthodox Jews? If so then why do fundamentalist Jewish sects tend to live in segregated communities to keep themselves from being defiled by all the outsiders who are doing it wrong?

In any case ... if Jews really believe everyone has equal access to god then Judaism is a cultural rather than religious phenomenon -- since it renders religion and dogma irrelevant or at best just a matter of personal preference.
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Old 01-21-2018, 09:11 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Is that the attitude of orthodox Jews?
Yes and no. Judaism does not see itself as being the only or "right" religion, but it does see monotheism as essential.
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If so then why do fundamentalist Jewish sects tend to live in segregated communities to keep themselves from being defiled by all the outsiders who are doing it wrong?
I think "defiled" is a strong word. Jews value community and shared values, and a resistance to assimilation or many of the practices of western cultures which don't share those values. If you value modesty in dress, and the outside world thinks it is ok to walk around topless, then you would want to stay insulated from that outside world.
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In any case ... if Jews really believe everyone has equal access to god then Judaism is a cultural rather than religious phenomenon -- since it renders religion and dogma irrelevant or at best just a matter of personal preference.
I don't see how that follows. Judaism is a religion that Jews believe is the right one for those people who are born Jewish.
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