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Old 07-05-2018, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Did you not say, we understand? You seem to speak for others as well as yourself.



I can only speak for myself. I can only tell you what is, and has always been.



God and I are old friends and that is the only explanation I have for you.




It is not a position.
Well, that was a waste of time.

 
Old 07-05-2018, 07:20 PM
 
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Something must have driven it.

I never was faithful. I recall the bible readings in school and sitting through catechisms, and I always thought of them as not much different than the fairy tales my mother would read to me. I'm not being facetious, as I saw little difference between a talking snake and the big bad wolf talking to Little Red Riding Hood.

Of course the horrible parts of the bible were never brought up in school. The almost murder of Abraham's son, the beating of slaves, the murder of rape victims, and the genocides, none of that was discussed. I became aware of them later. It just convinced me that what was being written was just human beings justifying their traditional actions and wrapping it in a spiritual package. It still bothers me that this is the basis for the religious fervor that many exhibit.

I think if you step away from dogma, and let it go it might become easier.



The Bible has nothing to do with my faith, and I do not follow the dogma of men.



The tales of our childhood are simply tales.



God would never be so arrogant as to tell someone to kill their child, destroy with a flood, destroy towns, accept the rape of women, and support slavery. Those are the actions of men.
 
Old 07-05-2018, 07:22 PM
 
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Well, that was a waste of time.

You chose to engage. Own it. Nothing like speaking for others. We. We understand was your statement.


Sleep well.
 
Old 07-05-2018, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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You chose to engage. Own it. Nothing like speaking for others. We. We understand was your statement.


Sleep well.
You certainly do dwell on one word.
 
Old 07-05-2018, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I think if you step away from dogma, and let it go it might become easier.



The Bible has nothing to do with my faith, and I do not follow the dogma of men.



The tales of our childhood are simply tales.



God would never be so arrogant as to tell someone to kill their child, destroy with a flood, destroy towns, accept the rape of women, and support slavery. Those are the actions of men.
I like the sound of all that...except for one thing...what do you base that on?
 
Old 07-05-2018, 08:21 PM
 
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You certainly do dwell on one word.

Your word, your statement.
 
Old 07-05-2018, 08:33 PM
 
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I like the sound of all that...except for one thing...what do you base that on?

You want a path? I guess you would have to step away from the men of the Bible to find it.


Your journey is unique, as is mine. They do not have to be the same.
 
Old 07-05-2018, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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You want a path? I guess you would have to step away from the men of the Bible to find it.


Your journey is unique, as is mine. They do not have to be the same.
I do agree that each person's path needs to be somewhat unique. And as a Methodist, turned Catholic, turned Christian/Buddhist, turned Buddhist/atheist, I certainly agree that one must turn away from the men of the bible to find the path. I'm satisfied with the path I took, although I wish it had been shorter, and I wish I had had a map at the time.
 
Old 07-05-2018, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I do agree that each person's path needs to be somewhat unique. And as a Methodist, turned Catholic, turned Christian/Buddhist, turned Buddhist/atheist, I certainly agree that one must turn away from the men of the bible to find the path. I'm satisfied with the path I took, although I wish it had been shorter, and I wish I had had a map at the time.
What?

And take all the fun out of the journey?!

 
Old 07-05-2018, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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I do agree that each person's path needs to be somewhat unique. And as a Methodist, turned Catholic, turned Christian/Buddhist, turned Buddhist/atheist, I certainly agree that one must turn away from the men of the bible to find the path. I'm satisfied with the path I took, although I wish it had been shorter, and I wish I had had a map at the time.
Don't we all. It doesn't work that way, though.
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