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Basically, black people could not be fully Mormon until almost the 1980s.
There are many Mormons today who are "fully Mormon" but do not have temple recommends. Baptism and confirmation is what makes a person "fully Mormon."
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Black people were not allowed in the temples which means black people could not get married in the temple therefore their marriages were not recognized by the church. This meant that black men and their families would NEVER enter the Celestial Kingdom (Mormon Heaven)
The "Mormon Heaven" you're referring to is comprised of three degrees of glory, of which the Celestial Kingdom is only one. Even when Blacks were banned from receiving their temple endowment, the church's doctrine was that they would someday be permitted to. At any rate, I don't believe for one minute that God would ever keep someone out of the temple because of a policy that was made which should have never been made.
Racism in current lds/Mormon scripture:
“And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites” - 3 Nephi 2:15
“For behold, the Lord shall curse the land with much heat, and the barrenness thereof shall go forth forever; and there was a blackness came upon all the children of Canaan, that they were despised among all people.” - Moses 7:8
Supporting slavery:
“ We believe it just to preach the gospel to the nations of the earth, and warn the righteous to save themselves from the corruption of the world; but we do not believe it right to interfere with bond-servants, neither preach the gospel to, nor baptize them contrary to the will and wish of their masters, nor to meddle with or influence them in the least to cause them to be dissatisfied with their situations in this life, thereby jeopardizing the lives of men; such interference we believe to be unlawful and unjust, and dangerous to the peace of every government allowing human beings to be held in servitude.” - Doctrine & Covenants 134:12
Racism exists in the lds/Mormon church still - not only as doctrine but also in how many members regard others who have darker skin than they do. I’ve seen it many times, not in all members, but too many.
Thank you for being honest about this issue. One of my best friends is Mormon and he has talked about this issue (and many others) regarding race.
He admitted that they separate the wards by ethnic group standard (white)/Pacific Islander/Hispanic
Racism exists in the lds/Mormon church still - not only as doctrine but also in how many members regard others who have darker skin than they do. I’ve seen it many times, not in all members, but too many.
Right. President Hinckley never came out against racism. If too many members are still racist, it's not because that's what we're being taught.
There are many Mormons today who are "fully Mormon" but do not have temple recommends. Baptism and confirmation is what makes a person "fully Mormon."
The "Mormon Heaven" you're referring to is comprised of three degrees of glory, of which the Celestial Kingdom is only one. Even when Blacks were banned from receiving their temple endowment, the church's doctrine was that they would someday be permitted to. At any rate, I don't believe for one minute that God would ever keep someone out of the temple because of a policy that was made which should have never been made.
I'm not lying. How have I lied?
So Bringham Young was wrong. If he was wrong, the current Prophet can also be wrong. Who are we to believe?
There are many Mormons today who are "fully Mormon" but do not have temple recommends. Baptism and confirmation is what makes a person "fully Mormon."
The "Mormon Heaven" you're referring to is comprised of three degrees of glory, of which the Celestial Kingdom is only one. Even when Blacks were banned from receiving their temple endowment, the church's doctrine was that they would someday be permitted to. At any rate, I don't believe for one minute that God would ever keep someone out of the temple because of a policy that was made which should have never been made.
I'm not lying. How have I lied?
Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins so that we ALL can go to heaven (not JUST the "white and delightsome", the ones with a temple recommend or by marrying a man with the priesthood)
You're replying to an actual Mormon, lol. I don't know how I have been 'focused' on something I just learned about from him.
Yeah right. An actual Mormon who believes her church is a cult. I'll tell you one thing. Any woman who would raise her children in what she genuinely believes to be a cult for any reason is totally without a moral compass, has no backbone and zero self-esteem. Furthermore, she is acting irresponsibly as a parent. Cults are dangerous. Look at what happened to children raised in Jim Jones' Peoples Temple and David Koresh's Branch Davidian Church. Any mother who believes that she is in a cult and doesn't get out and get her children out should be ashamed and is not fit to be their mother.
Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins so that we ALL can go to heaven (not JUST the "white and delightsome", the ones with a temple recommend or by marrying a man with the priesthood)
Amen.
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I admitted it was racist, didn't I?
Along with a lot of equivocating about how it wasn't really that bad.
Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins so that we ALL can go to heaven (not JUST the "white and delightsome", the ones with a temple recommend or by marrying a man with the priesthood)
That's right. He did, and Mormons are essentially universalists in their beliefs concerning the afterlife. I even believe you're going to go to Heaven. I bet you don't believe I am.
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If too many members are still racist, it's not because that's what we're being taught.