Do You Think God Made A Mistake In the Design of Human Beings if Young Girls Can Get Pregnant? (faith, punishment)
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Whether you were joking/spoofing or not (as you stated), this is being posted her by myself for the edification of all others who may chance to read it:
A SIMPLIFIED (LAYPERSON'S) SUMMARIZATION OF HUMAN ORIGINS PER GENDER:
Actually, from the beginning of biological conception (from the time that the sperm of the male meets the egg of the female), all "humans-in-the-making" start out from a common genetic template which is FEMALE (all of us). That is, we all start out with YY chromosomes and are hence properly classfied as "female". Then, through a process of random (unpredictable) mutation of those YY chromosomes that sometimes occurs in some conception scenarios and sometimes doesn't, some of those YY chromosomes (being female) mutate and become XY chromosomes (i.e., becoming male).
IN SUMMARY: So ALL homo sapiens started out, at the point of conception, as FEMALE. All of us. And some remain female, while others mutute and become male. In summary: The biblical narrative on our origins (i.e., Genesis) is simply false through-and-through (scientifically-speaking). It has NO valid correspondence with provable scientific fact. Period.
AN UPDATE:
One of our regular C-D posters (MysticPhD) sent me a Direct Message saying the following:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MysticPhD
You have the chromosome designations wrong. Female is XX, the male is XY and YY is a double male that was at one time thought to be the source of male aggressiveness and criminality.
Be well,
~Mystic
I responded to him with the following:
"Thank you. I was going by memory (having read up on it in 2009 and then explained it to someone else), so my designations were somewhat misremembered (9 years later).
Here are the correct details (taken from the web)":
Females have an XX pair of sex chromosomes, and males, an XY pair. A baby’s gender is determined by the sperm cell that fertilizes a woman’s egg. Sperm carry one sex chromosome, either a Y (male) or X (female).
To better understand, let’s look at how sperm develop. A human sperm results from the division of a cell containing 46 chromosome pairs, including one pair of sex chromosomes: one X and one Y. So exactly half of a man’s sperm have Y (male) chromosomes and half X (female) chromosomes. Other than the two sex chromosomes, the 22 other chromosome pairs that the sperm carries are genetically identical.
The sperm also carries half of an embryo’s DNA; the egg holds the other half. When the two combine, following sexual intercourse or fertilization in a lab (IVF), the resulting embryo will have a full 46 chromosome pairs. One pair determines the gender, and the other 22 pairs determine everything else about the baby, including eye color, height and body type.
The basics…
If an egg is fertilized by an X-bearing sperm, the resulting embryo will have two X chromosomes (XX), and will grow into a baby girl. If a Y-bearing sperm fertilizes the egg, the embryo will have XY chromosomes, a boy. (Except in the rare case of testicular feminization.) Since men’s sperm carry both male and female chromosomes (Y & X) in 50:50 proportion, and women’s eggs carry only one female chromosome (only X, because her sex chromosomes are XX), the man’s sperm holds the key to a baby’s gender.
Good topic.
I don't know if it's God's 'fault'or mistake'..but there was certainly someone at 'fault' making the avocado pit
so big...
(as pointed out by George Burns in, "Oh God!" with John Denver).
Now, why "He " made the pen*s over ride much sense in the male brain is a whole other issue.
I mean it can be 'activated' by placing a woman's photo on a string mop. Come ON, God!
All I am trying to point out, Shirina, is that both atheist and theist are in the same position on the issue of design and therefore have no basis to refute one another. They both proceed from the same position - ignorance (We Don't Know) - and that cannot logically provide a premise to conclude anything.
Rubbish. Atheists have the evidence that creationists do not. That is why creationists have to lie or misrepresent pro-evolution science.
All people came from a single couple, this is what science has recently proven.
Who came from previous people and was part of a whole human group that could not have been below 10,000 contemporaries, ** also proven. Plus, I thought it was one woman, then many generations later one man...can somebody correct me? They would not have been a couple, per se.
** I looked this up to correct it.
Last edited by JerZ; 11-29-2018 at 11:48 PM..
Reason: Fact checking.
Young girls can have babies once they start menstruating, which is starting earlier and earlier.
I am wondering if teen pregnancy is "wrong," then is "God" also wrong for designing young girls to be able to conceive at young ages?
Please do not quote scripture, but think about this question, and give a thoughtful response as to why a human being would be designed in a way that would then be frowned upon and difficult to interfere with (as in birth control, abortion, etc.).
It seems like a simple design flaw. If women are not "supposed" to give birth until age 20 say (just picked an arbitrary number), then why would "God" design them capable of having babies at age 10 through teens when they are unable to support themselves, act independently, or have the maturity to parent a child?
Do you think it’s possibke that we humans made a mistake in our modern day societies by exposing very young children TOO EARLYV to adult natured content? This is prevalent in our speach, tv programs, peer to peer environment etc, and it could’ve changed the psychology of our kids? The physiological and genetic changes in our younger generation could have taken some effect from the social environment we have provided to them? Are you even open to such ideas?
Some of the members may remember that in our days we knew little about sex until grade 7. The kids tv programs, the conversations, and the social environment in general was a lot more cleaner and civil.
These days it’s violence in video games, sexual content everywhere, no restrictions of any kind on free pornography to everyone on the internet, even kids start sexual activity a lot more earlier than in the old days - and we let that happen - Now let’s blame God for why girls get their periods at a younger age.
Oh, and by the way, “There is nothing wrong in girls age 6 or 7 start their periods if you happen to be an Athesist, because you know, God doesn’t exist and it’s all a part of evolution”
So are you departing from the cowardly position of most atheists and making a claim (that can be disproven) that there is no design to our reality?
_Again_ it entirely depends on what you mean by design. And you appear to be specifically using versions of it that do not conform with the vast majority of dictionary definitions.
So by all means disprove the claim. But while doing so be very specific A) what you mean by design and B) specifically what "steel man" version of the claim you are presuming to disprove.
So are you departing from the cowardly position of most atheists and making a claim (that can be disproven) that there is no design to our reality?
And there is the dishonest goal post moving, because once again your creationist arguments will be exposed as dishonest.
Most atheists do not believe in gods because they have no reason to believe. That is not cowardice, it is because they have an instinctive awareness that extraordinary claims are more improbable. So when most atheists say they do not need evidence, they do not realize that subconsciously they have actually evaluated the evidence.
I belong to that group of atheists who have consciously evaluated the evidence.
One also has to ask if you can disprove that there is no design to our reality, you have not written a science paper about it? Instead you post here, and in the wrong section.
Do you think it’s possibke that we humans made a mistake in our modern day societies by exposing very young children TOO EARLYV to adult natured content? This is prevalent in our speach, tv programs, peer to peer environment etc, and it could’ve changed the psychology of our kids? The physiological and genetic changes in our younger generation could have taken some effect from the social environment we have provided to them? Are you even open to such ideas?
Some of the members may remember that in our days we knew little about sex until grade 7. The kids tv programs, the conversations, and the social environment in general was a lot more cleaner and civil.
These days it’s violence in video games, sexual content everywhere, no restrictions of any kind on free pornography to everyone on the internet, even kids start sexual activity a lot more earlier than in the old days - and we let that happen - Now let’s blame God for why girls get their periods at a younger age.
Oh, and by the way, “There is nothing wrong in girls age 6 or 7 start their periods if you happen to be an Athesist, because you know, God doesn’t exist and it’s all a part of evolution”
I think there's a major problem in your post.
Do I think kids are exposed (not sure we should have chosen that word) to too much too soon. Yes. But on the other hand, in the 1950s (for example), while kids were watching Howdy Doody and Pinkly Lee, did Americans have a healthy understanding of sexuality...definitely not.
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