Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Do you believe humans are a part of nature?
Yes 43 86.00%
No 7 14.00%
Voters: 50. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-12-2008, 08:32 AM
 
13,640 posts, read 24,512,386 times
Reputation: 18602

Advertisements

I am a believer and I believe that everything God created is part of nature..I believe that I am the part of nature that scientists have named "mammal"..I believe that I am part of Gods nature that he made in his image..I believe I am the highest form of animal that possesses a brain that can understand complexities, can reason, can feel emotions, can comprehend "human nature"
can invent ways to make my "natural "life easier and more comfortable, and can make choices , not from instinct, but from the spirit that is part of God that dwells only in the highest form of nature that God created..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-12-2008, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
33,543 posts, read 37,145,710 times
Reputation: 14001
I think there are a lot of intelligent creatures, but because most are so perfectly adapted to their environment they have no need to build things. Chimps are the only creature that has learned to communicate in another species language...Man has never been able to do this.

Local News | "Signing" chimp Washoe broke language barrier | Seattle Times Newspaper

An elephant is considered by scientists to be the ninth most intelligent species after man, but after seeing this I wonder if they are underestimated?


YouTube - Elephant Painting
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-12-2008, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
27,232 posts, read 46,663,996 times
Reputation: 11084
Quote:
Originally Posted by chielgirl View Post
Oh yes you do, with humans. They're part of the natural world.
Then why don't we simply follow "natural" law...instead of making artificial laws?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-12-2008, 06:12 PM
 
2,630 posts, read 4,940,678 times
Reputation: 596
Quote:
Originally Posted by TKramar View Post
Then why don't we simply follow "natural" law...instead of making artificial laws?
When i think of natural law i think gravity, thermodynamics and electromagnetism to name a few. Coincidentally every human in the world follows these laws without fail so if you mean other "natural laws" then you are gonna have to define them and justify their existance
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-12-2008, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
27,232 posts, read 46,663,996 times
Reputation: 11084
Quote:
Originally Posted by coosjoaquin View Post
When i think of natural law i think gravity, thermodynamics and electromagnetism to name a few. Coincidentally every human in the world follows these laws without fail so if you mean other "natural laws" then you are gonna have to define them and justify their existance
What about...the law of the jungle, the survival of the fittest?

That's a natural law. But we try to use law to protect the weak and infirm, who don't deserve to live...by the terms that nature itself uses.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-13-2008, 06:34 AM
 
2,630 posts, read 4,940,678 times
Reputation: 596
Quote:
Originally Posted by TKramar View Post
What about...the law of the jungle, the survival of the fittest?

That's a natural law. But we try to use law to protect the weak and infirm, who don't deserve to live...by the terms that nature itself uses.
There is no such thing as someone not deserving to live, survival of the fittest or more accurately survival of the better adapted is the logical conclusion from a series of observations in nature. Google the word "Altruism" or "game theory" if you want to understand how helping others in times of need makes us better suited at surviving.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-14-2008, 01:18 AM
 
655 posts, read 916,994 times
Reputation: 240
In the physical sense, yes we are part of nature. However, myself and as many argue, on the spiritual end, we are different. Physically we are bound by nature's limitations placed on us, as are all living species of this planet. Spiritually, we are sperate from all living things, in my opinion.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-14-2008, 08:43 AM
 
285 posts, read 535,626 times
Reputation: 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by travelmate38 View Post
In the physical sense, yes we are part of nature. However, myself and as many argue, on the spiritual end, we are different. Physically we are bound by nature's limitations placed on us, as are all living species of this planet. Spiritually, we are sperate from all living things, in my opinion.
We we can see the physical, but where or where is this mystical spiritual thingy ma bopper.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-14-2008, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
27,232 posts, read 46,663,996 times
Reputation: 11084
Quote:
Originally Posted by coosjoaquin View Post
There is no such thing as someone not deserving to live, survival of the fittest or more accurately survival of the better adapted is the logical conclusion from a series of observations in nature. Google the word "Altruism" or "game theory" if you want to understand how helping others in times of need makes us better suited at surviving.
I don't agree...only the "strong" should survive. If you're part of the herd that is weak, you get culled.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-14-2008, 04:40 PM
 
244 posts, read 393,265 times
Reputation: 63
Quote:
Originally Posted by TKramar View Post
I don't agree...only the "strong" should survive. If you're part of the herd that is weak, you get culled.
What if the weak herd is the one in which the members don't help each other out?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:17 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top