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And that would be factually wrong. At least not the slavery of 1800's America.
Actually, it would be factually correct. Certainly not all Christians supported 19th century slavery, but many did and justified it using the Bible.
I think it worth pointing out your evasion here, in saying that Christians did not support the slavery of the 1800s. Are you one of the people who supports slavery as depicted in the Bible?
Actually, it would be factually correct. Certainly not all Christians supported 19th century slavery, but many did and justified it using the Bible.
And they were wrong to do so.
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I think it worth pointing out your evasion here, in saying that Christians did not support the slavery of the 1800s. Are you one of the people who supports slavery as depicted in the Bible?
I never said Christians didn't support it. I said Christianity doesn't support it.
And that would be factually wrong. At least not the slavery of 1800's America.
They most assuredly did. The disagreement over the issue of slavery is what caused the Southern Baptists to break away from the American Baptists. That happened in America in the 1800s.
For supporting it? Because they were wrong to do so.
But they did...officially...as well as en masse among the congregations to the point that a civil war ensured killing well over half a million Americans.
1. Very poor choice of words in last sentence. The "Never Again" concept in re the Nazi holocaust wasn't a joke. It was and continues to be said in all seriousness. But as when we say anything as a society, we must also remember how we as individuals behave. We make New Years Resolutions. Sometimes we fail. We go to confession either formally or in our thoughts and prayers. Sometimes we fail. Pledges we make often crumble, but we still state privately or publicly our good intentions and goals and aspirations.
2. As to turning on their faith...maybe I'd say it differently. That people often turn on and off their faith (I know, different meaning). It's part of how we sometimes compartmentalize our lives.
3. And then there's the I do what I gotta do part of life.
4. There are quite a few christians here who think that they behave based on their faith, as if all non-christians are immoral. Nah. For the most part, people behave based on their culture, not on their faith.
I think you know what I meant by that.
Genocides have not stopped after WW2, despite this pledge, and it is disgraceful that they have continued. (and farcical in the case of the United Nations stopping them)
For supporting it? Because they were wrong to do so.
You're not getting it, are you? The Christians at the time supported the wrong because it was what they believed and the Bible didn't say it was wrong.
If Christians opposed it, it was because of humanist ethics, even if they dressed it up in Biblical verbiage and ignored a few pro -slavery passages. It enables them today to claim that they were against it all the time.
It is the same now with a number of issues that 'Some' Christians and churches are fighting. No doubt they will claim later on that 'they were wrong to do so' and claim that many Christians were supporting many of the issues that are being fought over right now.
This is the ongoing swindle of religious apologetics. To blame anything bad on humans and claim anything good for their religion.
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and yet again we have drifted off the topic to general apologetics. Par for the course, i suppose.
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