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Old 04-29-2009, 04:20 PM
 
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There are a lot of people in the world. They dream fairly frequently. They often dream about things from their everyday life, or things which worries them - dreams that have a fair chance of coming true.

Simple probabilities tell us that a few dreams will probably materialize.
probabilities occur in certain instances as a coincident. Some dreams are not coincident and they do not imply to our daily living rather strange things about to happen, it could be good or bad.

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Mathematical student here, and this is BS. Math is a matter of conventions, not something that can be studied or tested by science. Change the conventions, and 1+1 can easily make 0, or 10 (using two conventions frequently used by mathematicians - binary and Z2).
obviously when you use a formal large assembly you can change that factor, but it isn't changing the mathematical law?
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Old 04-29-2009, 04:21 PM
 
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I dreamt I was human, and then when I awoke....I was human! Must be whoever you worship sending me 'spirit signals'.
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Old 04-29-2009, 04:31 PM
 
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I dreamt I was human, and then when I awoke....I was human! Must be whoever you worship sending me 'spirit signals'.
oh i see and that sentence didn't really make sense either, i thought it was ludicrous lol
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Old 04-29-2009, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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We have over six billion people on this planet and most of them are having at least a dream or two every night. With all of these billions of dreams occurring in say just a week's amount of time it would truly be astonishing if none of them happened in reality. That doesn't mean that there's some connection between the dreams that come true and the actual event in real life. It's just a matter of statistics and there isn't anything scientific about it whatsoever.
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Old 04-29-2009, 04:41 PM
 
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jackdonekings, do you believe lightning strikes are God hitting the ground? Because this is what religious people believed before science came up with its own answer. What you're doing now is exactly what these religious people did: something strange occurred with which there was no available science answer at the time therefore you chalked it up to God. Just imagine in 500 years time people are going to look back and laugh that some people used to think their dreams were a sign from God when it was just the something-or-other effect.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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the science you know is it truly science? i know the true science that never change, here is a scientific logic 1+1 will always be 2 no matter what no change there.

so am waiting for my answer how else do dreams materialize am not talking about ambition am talking about the dreams that happen during sleep, some how some of them materialize into the real world. i have had a lot of them?

So how many haven't as you say materialized? What is the percentage? I know I dream, but remember very few of them as it is the nature of dreams to rapidly fade away upon awakening.


even so i know many people such as my mother and grandma. My grandma had a dream when i was involved in an accident, and she was all the way in malawi, she said 'my brother was injured' and guess what the impact really took place on my brother's side and he did have a minor injury. was it just a coincidence or my grandma experience a vision(spiritual message) or can you explain that scientifically?

Either coincidence, or she told a fib.


she did pray about it but it still happened and luckily we walked out safe from that accident
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:11 PM
 
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probabilities occur in certain instances as a coincident. Some dreams are not coincident and they do not imply to our daily living rather strange things about to happen, it could be good or bad.
What makes you say that? We have a perfectly logical reason as to why some dreams come true but most don't.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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dreams do not imply to lucky guess, all through the bible dreams have been explained what they are and how useful they can be on our daily lives.

I agree that on occasion a dream can be useful...I have solved many a problem that way. But it has nothing to do with the bible. It is just your subconscious working while you are asleep.

Maybe intuition but if God is all knowing then some of his messages are passed onto us through visions and dreams and even intuition.

I don't believe God is all knowing.

i thought believing in evolutional theory not science, has some scientific evolutional explanation on any matter. as we all know the universe began from an atom, then i heard other theories that debunk one theory then the next? i know science is a never changing law but evolutional science is not ordinary science, but the scientific impossibility, that is full of pot holes to fill in. but it changes every single day by evolutionist.

No, science does not say the universe began with an atom. Science does not yet know how the universe began...You are also wrong when you state that science is never changing. Scientific hypothesis is not static but constantly changes as new evidence is found. Before making such statements, you should at least learn the basics of how science works.

If water is composed of the same particles as steam/vapor and ice, that for a fact will never change and that is the true scientific law, thats because that law is not inventory but it is still science, can you scientifically change that law?
Water can and is changed to it's basic elements, hydrogen and oxygen.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:53 PM
 
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since atheist deny the existence of God and they truly created a philosophy of science which is not truly science. Then explain the mysteries of dreams materializing scientifically.

why else do we have intuition? is there a logical scientific fact behind?



the Messenger of Allaah Muhammed (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“Dreams are of three types: some are terrifying things from the Shaytaan, aimed at causing grief to the son of Adam;
some are things that a person is concerned with when he is awake, so he sees them in his dreams;
and some are a part of the forty-six parts of Prophecy.”
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:01 PM
 
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the op asked for a scientific explanation, which i take him to expect to come from the "natural" sciences alone.

being a lay person, i can only find unconnected pieces like the human energy field, but imho it needs an interdisciplinary teamwork from both the natural sciences and the humanities including new age findings and good old metaphysics.
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