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Yes it's very real and if a person claims to be Christian but denounces any part of the BIBLE then they are not true Christians for example some belive HELL is not literal or the same thing this thread is about because if they belive there is a part of the BIBLE they denounce then they are calling GOD a liar which he is not.
The problem with that is the bible is interpreted differently by many different people. This alone explains the differences in Christian religions around the world. It's all based on interpretation so maybe they don't believe EXACTLY what you do, but they still believe. Once again, religion is something people use to prove to themselves that they are right. What I don't understand is how such a small minority of people on earth are "Christians" yet they seem to think they are the only ones going to heaven. The even funnier notion is that, for the most part, this entire "saved" thing is almost exclusively an American thing. I find it funny how people could think that practically everyone else on the face of the planet will be here after they disappear into thin air. Sounds like more of a twilight zone than anything to me.
Yes it's very real and if a person claims to be Christian but denounces any part of the BIBLE then they are not true Christians for example some belive HELL is not literal or the same thing this thread is about because if they belive there is a part of the BIBLE they denounce then they are calling GOD a liar which he is not.
Who said it wasn't real? Speaking in tongues (ie other languages) was definately very real as was demonstrated by the disciples who spread the gospel of Christ through this gift.
However babbling incoherently is not speaking a new or another language to spreak God's word.
The question I would ask regarding what is "real" or not is: Is whether "speaking in tongues" which now a days conotes not another languages but babbling is real. . .
I beleive in speaking in tongues! It is the evidence that you have been baptised in the Holy Spirit. From what I can see, there are two different kinds of speaking in tongues. One is a gift from God where you receive it after being baptised in the Spirit, as a prayer language between you and God. The other is also a gift from God but is used out in public as in "tongues and interpretation."
I received my prayer language years after receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit and have also received the gift of tongues and interpretation.
Yes speaking in tongues is for today!!! I find when I pray in tongues more revelation comes to me.
There had been a time when a certain pastor and his wife were trying to tell me tongues were wrong. Yet I was always intrigued and open to it. Never afraid. I find most that are against it have just not experienced it.
Yes it's very real and if a person claims to be Christian but denounces any part of the BIBLE then they are not true Christians for example some belive HELL is not literal or the same thing this thread is about because if they belive there is a part of the BIBLE they denounce then they are calling GOD a liar which he is not.
I hate posts like this. Someone has their own interpretation of every jot and tittle in the Bible and if anyone falls out of line with this then they aren't a true Christian.
I've got news for ya buddy--if you study the original Greek and Hebrew you would find out that your belief in a hell of literal fire is heretical and unscriptural, and in addition it shrinks the power of God (the "fire" described in "hell") to mere physical flame. Do some research before regurgitating what the pastor said last Sunday.
I very much see your point here Jeff! Fanatics scare me because they misrepresent Jesus on every level.
Dawn
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Originally Posted by jeffncandace
I hate posts like this. Someone has their own interpretation of every jot and tittle in the Bible and if anyone falls out of line with this then they aren't a true Christian.
I've got news for ya buddy--if you study the original Greek and Hebrew you would find out that your belief in a hell of literal fire is heretical and unscriptural, and in addition it shrinks the power of God (the "fire" described in "hell") to mere physical flame. Do some research before regurgitating what the pastor said last Sunday.
Doesnt the bible say that there will be an enterpeter when someone has the spirit of God speaking thru them in unknown tounges?Gift) Does everyone in the building have the same gift at the same time even small children jumping and yelling along with the adults?or isnt it supposed to be an organized house of worship?
God is not the author of confusion. When a word goes forth during service there is an interpreter. There is an annointing, usually after Praise and Worship when this takes place. The church will become very still and this happens in an orderly fashion. When the word is false and not of God it doesen't witness to our spirit and one can sense that. Children are in their own service at my church, and babies are in the nursery. It isn't a big free for all. I realize I am just touching on this, but you could read 1Corinthians, Chapter 14 if you like. Or PM me. That is the Gift of tongues which is different from speaking in tongues for our own prayer life.
As believers we can all ask for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit so that we may receive the imparting of speaking in tongues. It is our heavenly prayer language. It is for self-edification, when we don't know how or what to pray for. It's a wonderful gift. I received it the night I was saved, just by asking for it. I know it is extremely difficult for some to comprehend, but I can assure you that there is no science behind it. It is my belief that one needn't speak in tongues to be saved. Pentecostals, Assemebly Of God, Non-denominational Chrstians and many more do believe and practice in churches where the "gifts of the spirit" are in operation. This would being fundamental Christians.
I'm a non-denominational Christian and we don't believe in tongues today. We do believe that the 1st Christians had this gift as a way to spread the gospel. Again, the word "tongue" in Greek simply means "language." So the early Christians had the gift of speaking in a new language, a language unknown to them to help spread the word.
However babbling incoherently is not speaking a new or another language to spreak God's word.
The question I would ask regarding what is "real" or not is: Is whether "speaking in tongues" which now a days conotes not another languages but babbling is real. . .
What you consider "babbling" is another language, It may sound like mumbo jumbo but doesen't any foreign language sound that way? Millions of believers speak in tongues, some having totally unique tongues, a lot being the same. It is real.
I've heard of Christians that dismiss the fact that Speaking in Tongues is still real. They believe it died out in the 1st Century...
If you are a Christian, do you believe in Speaking in Tongues, or do you think it's out-dated?
I for one believe it's real, and just like the Bible states, it's praying in the spirit, communicating perfectly with the Father.
I was baptized in the Holy Spirit, with the evidence in Speaking in Tongues back in 2003, and when I first started, it was as if I was learning a new language, just like a baby does... But now, I speak in the spirit, as if my new language is becoming fluent.
While I believe speaking in tongues can happen I don't believe that the garbled nonsense allot of "preachers' spew is the real Mc Coy.
Acts 2: 4-8 Describes tongues being spoken, the people were speaking real language that people from foreign countries understood. It wasn't yelling words that no one understands. A case can be made in scripture for speaking a language only God understands but that language is for God to hear and for personal edification, not to fill the collection plate.
Speaking in tongues is mostly a missionary tool. If you have people in the room that speak a foreign tongue speaking in tongues can be a great thing, but if it is abused to the point that Church services turn into circus acts it scares true seekers away from the Church. And to me turning a person away from God is one of the worst things a person can do.
Last edited by wzippler; 08-10-2007 at 08:06 PM..
Reason: Changed a perfectly innocent word to something else because it was **** out and made my post look dirty
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