Do many "Older" women consider Men "Irrelevant"?

[mlulu23]

Originally Posted by TMKSarah

Got you on that one!!! love love

Oh, But I completely agree with you! I'd love to see more older guys exercising. I know they would look HOT for us, and feel better too after the initial discomfort. Just pick something where they exert themselves. Not shuffleboard, or golfing using a golf cart . Walking the golf course, and lugging your gear would be better. If they want a hot babe they need to do their homework too . At least this looks good on paper, lol.

I was focusing mainly on us ladies because there are a lot of us on this thread. Some of us in the same boat having to, or wanting to live alone. I'm not really used to it. I grew up on the cusp between needing a man in our lives to be complete, and sexual "freedom". We are never really free.

I like guys, but at my age I may never have love in my life ever, idk. Guess I'll have to resign myself to that fact. So I need the pep talk too . I know those exercises work because they helped me for decades. My sex drive was also very high back when I consistently lifted even at 66. It has been shown to raise testosterone levels. I didn't make the connection till recently. Yeah, this article is for guys. That's alright. Note the compound exercises.

https://www.mensjournal.com/health-f...tosterone-men/

Because of a stressful, and wonky marriage my lifting got way off schedule, and less often, my sex drive begin to tank. I've never in my life had that kind of a problem. After driving across country twice since Sept 2018, divorce is final, and I have my own apartment, the stress is finally leaving. I can start exercising again. At least when the fibro/cfs will let me, lol. This is an experiment of one to see if my SD can be resurrected by weight training like I believe. As it went from almost too strong, every day kind of thing at 66 to zero at 70. I don't know why, and I really hate it ! The decline correlated with the lack of lifting. This goes back to your post about wanting a man, and sex. If it can help me, it can help others.

I do need men in my life, but if I have to live without a mate now, and in the future, I still want to feel better as would any older woman. To be stronger in order to do the daily tasks of living for as long as possible. I detest this weaker, more feeble version of myself, and am fighting it with what I know. Fibro/cfs be damned! Plus I want my butt to look like it did when I was younger, around 66, haha. Sorry to write a book. But for me this is part of what being an independent woman is about. And no, men are not irrelevant in the least. Thank God for men.

[carnelian]

I see there's much hostility and suspicion toward men here, based on the answers I read. partly promoted by the feminist ideas that men are irrelevant or unnecessary for women's lives. They have been pushing this line a long time. Too bad that this divisiveness will continue. I try not to stereotype and generalize so much and I expect the same.

[Minervah]

Originally Posted by carnelian

I see there's much hostility and suspicion toward men here, based on the answers I read. partly promoted by the feminist ideas that men are irrelevant or unnecessary for women's lives. They have been pushing this line a long time. Too bad that this divisiveness will continue. I try not to stereotype and generalize so much and I expect the same.

These are not the majority feminist ideas. There is no “party line.” They may be spouted by some women who call themselves feminists but that’s like saying all Republicans support Donald Trump or all Democrats voted for Hillary Clinton. You can’t paint an entire group with one brush. There are too many variations of opinion.

I consider myself a feminist as do my friends. None of us believe men to be irrelevant. Men may not be necessary for us as contributors to women’s financial or emotional well being as they might have once been but that doesn’t make them irrelevant. For many older women, and that includes feminists, men certainly still have a place in their lives as friends and companions just as any of their female friends.

Turn it around and I would imagine many men feel the same about friendships with women.

Oh, and just because a woman criticizes a man, it does not make her a feminist. I know some men who actually think that way. Maybe the hostility and suspicion you’re seeing here was rightfully earned.