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Old 02-21-2017, 12:58 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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My goal in my youth was to become a beachcomber in Tahiti. The reality at 70 is that I never got to Tahiti and I've never combed a beach. The best laid plans...
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Old 02-21-2017, 01:07 PM
 
Location: equator
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But why do you think not likely? Is there a rationale they don't cover or is it just something that has not yet been discussed/deliberated by lawmakers? Medical costs are lower in other countries because their insurance industry does not cover much and those that do, are very, very expensive on premiums and only the rich people have them. So doctors/hospital charges are payable mostly by cash by the local people. By that, one can argue the US government should be happier to pay less claims compared to what US hospitals bill them (indirectly through insurance industry)

More money to spread around. This will be good for Medicare. Otherwise, it may go bankrupt.

Well, far be it from me to get in any lawmaker's head, but the current trend seems to be down-sizing Medicare, not expanding it. The red tape involved in overseas claims would be a nightmare, much as I wish we could get it here.


The insurance companies here typically cover most things, as does the national plan. I just don't think the average care (on the national plan) is as high quality. So yes, I'm a little worried about that but not making my life choices based on that, like someone else pointed out. The national plan we are getting is $80 per month per couple. We can afford that. The reason for lower medical costs is that other countries aren't running FOR PROFIT medical institutions, like the U.S. does. And that won't be changing anytime soon.
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Miraflores
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My goal in my youth was to become a beachcomber in Tahiti. The reality at 70 is that I never got to Tahiti and I've never combed a beach. The best laid plans...
No biggie, I hear that when you reach your seventies you have to do a beachcombover!
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:54 AM
 
Location: equator
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No biggie, I hear that when you reach your seventies you have to do a beachcombover!

LOL! Do they do comb-overs in Peru? I don't see any across the border here.


Beach-combing is great fun. Totally different shells here and lots of broken pottery from indigenous cultures from 100's of years ago. I have to find other hobbies so that every day isn't "Saturday" (much as I do like that) but so far, that and reading are about it....
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Old 02-22-2017, 11:10 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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I recently paid 725 euros for an MRI in a private hospital, and a cousin in the U.S. paid over 1,200 dollars for the same MRI in the U.S.
725 Euros equals 765 US Dollars...



https://www.angieslist.com/articles/...-mri-cost.htm:
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Just like all medical procedures, the price range to have the procedure performed varies widely, but on average, it will cost you between $400 and $3,500.
My medical program pays for all of my MRI's...

The cost of items varies greatly throughout the world.
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Old 02-22-2017, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Miraflores
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LOL! Do they do comb-overs in Peru? I don't see any across the border here.


Beach-combing is great fun. Totally different shells here and lots of broken pottery from indigenous cultures from 100's of years ago. I have to find other hobbies so that every day isn't "Saturday" (much as I do like that) but so far, that and reading are about it....
No, Peruvians in general have too much hair which is normally closely cropped. As far as beach combing, the beach in front of my condo is all rock, never see a shell!
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Old 02-22-2017, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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Medical costs are at least 1/4 less across the board and often a third or half as much as in the U.S. I recently paid 725 euros for an MRI in a private hospital, and a cousin in the U.S. paid over 1,200 dollars for the same MRI in the U.S.
"Cost" is a slippery thing in the US. There is a cost the provider would like to charge you, and then there is the actual cost that the insurance company bargains it down to, some of which you pay, some of which the insurance company pays. And if you don't have insurance you can still bargain with some providers.

So which of these did your cousin pay? The last MRI I had, they tried to bill me for about $800 but it got bargained down to less than $500 and of that I paid $75.
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Old 02-22-2017, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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The reason for lower medical costs is that other countries aren't running FOR PROFIT medical institutions, like the U.S. does. And that won't be changing anytime soon.
There are tons of things going on that lower costs in other countries. Malpractice insurance is an enormous expense in the US and I suspect nobody else is as litigious as the US. Medical billing requirements in the US generate a lot of overhead. Oversight and regulations make things more expensive particularly with drugs. Labor is cheaper in developing nations. It all adds up.
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Old 02-22-2017, 04:38 PM
 
Location: On the road
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The reason for lower medical costs is that other countries aren't running FOR PROFIT medical institutions, like the U.S. does. And that won't be changing anytime soon.
Not necessarily.

My wife recently needed to go see a dentist in a developing country because she was worried she cracked a tooth. Cost for examination by a dentist was about $11, and it was a for-profit clinic run by an Aussie dentist that caters to the expat community and health tourists.

There are plenty of private for-profit clinics in Malaysia, Singapore, and Thailand that specialize in elective (or non-emergency) surgical procedures for the round eyed devils waving cash.
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Old 02-22-2017, 11:08 PM
 
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725 Euros equals 765 US Dollars...



https://www.angieslist.com/articles/...-mri-cost.htm:


My medical program pays for all of my MRI's...

The cost of items varies greatly throughout the world.
I wonder how much an MRI machine costs as MRI's are outragiously expensive if you dont have good coverage.


http://web.stanford.edu/dept/news/ne...1/mri-321.html
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