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Old 07-29-2009, 02:13 PM
 
Location: DC Area, for now
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My disability letter said that I would be reviewed in 7-10 years. Bring it on. I was honest in everything I filled out.

I went through, what is called the best attorney in the state. Lost my case. Filed on my own and spoke my mind. I won. What the attorney had told me, "Don't say that" killed me. When I filed on my own, I spoke my mind and told them exactly how I felt and what was going on.

When I first filed, they had me go to the hospital and take some tests. The tests had nothing to do with what was wrong. But hey, they ordered the tests so I went. When I filed on my own, they sent me to a specialist in my field of problems. He agreed with what was wrong. From time of filing until settlement was less then 4 months.
So, the lesson is to tell the truth and don't play games?
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Old 07-29-2009, 02:26 PM
 
Location: UK
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If you are disabled and cannot work you deserve SSI at the time of the onset of the disability, not have to wait for 2 years - that is obscene.
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Old 07-29-2009, 02:54 PM
 
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If you are disabled and cannot work you deserve SSI at the time of the onset of the disability, not have to wait for 2 years - that is obscene.
You got this wrong,. Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is given to those over 65 or disabled who have minimal income and resources. You can have SSI with Social Security Retirement Income (SSRI) or Social Security Security Disability Income (SSDI). You can also be qualified without social security.

What you are referring to is Medicare which does not cover until you have been disabled for 29 months beyond the onset date of disability or 24 months after the eligibility date for benefits of disability.

That is because Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) does not cover you for the first 5 months of disability. The law was written to assume that claimants would have enough to live on, for the first 5 months. I do not agree.

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Old 07-30-2009, 06:07 AM
 
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That is because Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) does not cover you for the first 5 months of disability. The law was written to assume that claimants would have enough to live on, for the first 5 months. I do not agree.

Livecontent
Or was the law written that way because most injuries are temporary and the victim gets better. But if you are still disabled at 5 months, then it is a long-term chronic condition. If they didn't do the wait, then everyone who broke a leg would get disability. It can be hard, but how else is the law to distinguish between a temporary injury and a chronic disability?
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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So, the lesson is to tell the truth and don't play games?
Exactly. I did and it worked for me. So many people try to play games and get what's not theirs. If it works, let the gov pay. But in my case, I told the truth and they paid. Works for me.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Southwest Nebraska
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Exactly. I did and it worked for me. So many people try to play games and get what's not theirs. If it works, let the gov pay. But in my case, I told the truth and they paid. Works for me.
Now remember SSDI is tax money that has been paid in from your paycheck so it does not come from the "gov".
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:40 PM
 
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Now remember SSDI is tax money that has been paid in from your paycheck so it does not come from the "gov".
Yes and No. SSDI as well as SSRI is indeed funded by tax on wages. However, it does not come from your paycheck; it comes from all paychecks. It is put in a trust fund and when you collect Disability, you will receive more money from the trust than you, yourself, has paid in taxes. Of course, it depends on what age you were disabled and if you die early. So all taxpayers pay for some who get more, and all pay for some who get less; just as any insurance works.

In addition, the wages, salary, operational funds for the Social Security Administration comes out of the General Fund. At the State Level, it comes out of every State's Budget. Keep in Mind that the States determine initial eligibility for disability for Social Security. That Bureaucracy has to be funded. So, the Government funds directly the administration of the system, without which you would have no disbursement of funds.

To make it very clear Supplemental Security Income (SSI) come directly out of the Federal General Fund and is supplemented in many states from their budget. It is not funded by the Social Security Trust Fund. SSI is for those over 65 or disabled who have limited income and resources.

Well, that is at least how I understand the system. Though, I think nobody understands any economic system--it is just BS running on BS; and in this case we are being reminded that the BS is going to run out---I think that may be BS to scare us into putting up more BS.

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Old 07-31-2009, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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As it was explained to me by SS, and I could be wrong. The money I get is based solely on what I paid in. I get disability, but not SSI. Have too much in savings. So SSDI is paid, based on what I gave to it through the years.
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Old 07-31-2009, 02:58 PM
 
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As it was explained to me by SS, and I could be wrong. The money I get is based solely on what I paid in. I get disability, but not SSI. Have too much in savings. So SSDI is paid, based on what I gave to it through the years.
Yes it is based on a scale that is related to how much you earned; the more you earned, the higher is your benefits; the less you earned the less your benefits.

However, that does not come directly out of your specific fund account, that you contribute. It is all one big pile. You can easily collect much more than the actual dollars you put in, if you live long enough. Some people die early and receive less than they contribute. Some people have dependents that receive some of their benefits after their demise; some people have no dependents.

It is all computed statistically with actuarial information. Now, if we can get people to die immediately when they start benefits and leave no dependents--the social security trust fund will have more than enough money. So, to win and beat the system, take care of yourself and live to a very old age--and sire children when you are old. Of course, you would have to have another child bearing woman--that thought makes me want to just die.

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Old 09-23-2009, 05:27 AM
 
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This will be my first review forum to fill out. I'm a little nervous about it, don't know why. The only thing I have not done is go to a head doctor like I should have...lol...but I have been in a hospital nervous break down since I got my disabilty. got on disabilty back in 2004, went back in hostpital in 2006 have not seen a doctor for that since. now I have an appointment in october. will this hurt my disabilty?? My back problem is no better, it's worse. started out with L2, L4 now add to it L6 (I believe). I have nerve damage in my right leg.
Is there anything I need to do?? I've not kept up with my records good, we moved and a lot of info has gotten lost.
Any help would be appericated!
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