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Actually, now that the IL is gone it is really thriving. Ask the owners of the houses that were located next to the Inner Loop. Hideous piece of garbage poorly thought out. Good riddance!
You noticed that when they responded to the post with an example of development associated with the removal of a portion of the Loop, they didn't do it directly, as it would offer a direct YouTube video of said development.
What high volume traffic road are you referring to, as there are still some within the city, even if you remove the Inner Loop? You aren't the only one paying for it and many that do are impacted by it directly on an everyday basis.
Actually, the land itself, would be used for development, like the portion that already has been removed. There has been development there already. An example of this: https://theurbanphoenix.com/2020/02/...erloopvictory/ (shout out to The Urban Phoenix, btw)
Those areas are removed and actually retained their character as a quarter of the city that still has a pretty substantial middle class population. If anything, it proves a point in terms of prime real estate in the city right by Downtown, as it could extend its development to those other parts of the city. In essence, creating a bigger core by reconnecting the city. Meaning, not just the land occupied by the Loop, but beyond it.
A more direct way to view development that has occurred already in the attached post.
This must be one of the top topics in every university planning department.
Syracuse next. But a lot more difficult than the Inner Loop project.
I'd wait and see how the north section turns out. The eastern section had development right up to the edge of the loop, and the development is all private investment. The northern section has no development adjacent to the loop and I haven't heard of any developers interested.
Maybe the universities should study how some cities have no problem Strattling over rivers, and roadways.
I'm sure you will find it's a stronger economy
You obviously didn't read the information associated with the sections of the map or put 2 and 2 together in regards to later residential patterns. Come on man...
I see who authored it, so one can predict the conclusion. What I got out of your map is that Blacks were "redlined" against home ownership in the neighborhoods destroyed by the expressway, so I guess the Italians were the ones to lose their homes
I see who authored it, so one can predict the conclusion. What I got out of your map is that Blacks were "redlined" against home ownership in the neighborhoods destroyed by the expressway, so I guess the Italians were the ones to lose their homes
Not at the time of construction, as the demographics changed later within those redlined areas, as the city’s black population took off after World War 2. In turn, those neighborhoods changed as suburban development was starting as well.
With all of this said, even if you take the redlining and other associated aspects out of it, that land could be used to be put on the tax rolls as well with development. Especially given the Downtown momentum and wanting to carry that over into other neighborhoods by creating essentially new developments like those given in the video.
This must be one of the top topics in every university planning department.
Syracuse next. But a lot more difficult than the Inner Loop project.
Actually, this is why I’m illustrating why cities do this, as Syracuse is doing something similar in regards to I-81’s elevated portion in between Downtown and University Hill.
You make a good point, as Rochester is more of an issue of infill versus taking a portion of highway down and having to adjust ground level and highway infrastructure.
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Actually, this is why I’m illustrating why cities do this, as Syracuse is doing something similar in regards to I-81’s elevated portion in between Downtown and University Hill.
You make a good point, as Rochester is more of an issue of infill versus taking a portion of highway down and having to adjust ground level and highway infrastructure.
The I 81 project is simple.
-Swap routes I481 and I81
-481 from the north reduces to a surface road
-481 from the south becomes a surface road
-All though traffic flows on the I81 (formally I481)
-The elevated highway is removed and neighborhood built
-Swap routes I481 and I81
-481 from the north reduces to a surface road
-481 from the south becomes a surface road
-All though traffic flows on the I81 (formally I481)
-The elevated highway is removed and neighborhood built
They will have to expand 481 from its southern connection with I-81 up to about up to its northern connection with 81. Yes, 481 will be for those just driving through, while 81 becomes a surface road essentially through the city. I’m thinking that the time table just for taking the elevated portion and expanding 481 may take quite a while.
With that said, if done right, this would be an example of how to connect core neighborhoods with development.
They will have to expand 481 from its southern connection with I-81 up to about up to its northern connection with 81. Yes, 481 will be for those just driving through, while 81 becomes a surface road essentially through the city. I’m thinking that the time table just for taking the elevated portion and expanding 481 may take quite a while.
With that said, if done right, this would be an example of how to connect core neighborhoods with development.
I've been hearing about this for years. What progress has been made?
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