Inner Loop North Project (Buffalo, Rochester: low income, house, employment)
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Perhaps, but I also mentioned other options that don't have anything to do with Downtown in order to get across town and with negligible difference in terms of time. So, it looks like there are ways to get across town.
Ok, with the price of gas, who wants to do that?
Another amusing thing about your "solution" is that Then there will be complaints about the increase in traffic. Not to mention, those aren't the best neighborhoods, either
Another amusing thing about your "solution" is that Then there will be complaints about the increase in traffic. Not to mention, those aren't the best neighborhoods, either
Not everyone would take the same route, let alone the fact that many people likely live closer to work and going across town might not even be a thing to consider.
On the flipside, developing in the core of the city would allow for people to not use their cars to get to work as well, if they work Downtown or nearby. In turn, that could help reduce traffic.
Not everyone would take the same route, let alone the fact that many people likely live closer to work and going across town might not even be a thing to consider.
On the flipside, developing in the core of the city would allow for people to not use their cars to get to work as well, if they work Downtown or nearby. In turn, that could help reduce traffic.
Sadly, you seem to be immersed in "what ifs" and "could bees", when people like me, actually HAD to deal with a "cross town lifestyle" for MANY years. I knew and evaluated the possibilities, in order to make my trip as efficient as possible, rather than a "time/distance" is of no concern, Sunday afternoon cruise. And losing the option of the Inner Loop is indeed a big loss.
Are these for the off-peak times when the traffic is at its sparsest? That footage looks like really low utilization. Maybe it's an off-season, too?
I'm curious, does the amount of development after Inner Loop East went down strike you as more or less than you initially expected? Were there people you knew of that were convinced that there would be absolutely nothing that would take its place?
Sadly, you seem to be immersed in "what ifs" and "could bees", when people like me, actually HAD to deal with a "cross town lifestyle" for MANY years. I knew and evaluated the possibilities, in order to make my trip as efficient as possible, rather than a "time/distance" is of no concern, Sunday afternoon cruise. And losing the option of the Inner Loop is indeed a big loss.
Yeah, I thought the same thing. After being on this sight for years, I notice one person adds a lot of "what if's," and "perhaps". It only ends up diluting one's comment, without providing a valid counter point. Very annoying, and not helpful to anyone who is looking for facts here.
Sadly, you seem to be immersed in "what ifs" and "could bees", when people like me, actually HAD to deal with a "cross town lifestyle" for MANY years. I knew and evaluated the possibilities, in order to make my trip as efficient as possible, rather than a "time/distance" is of no concern, Sunday afternoon cruise. And losing the option of the Inner Loop is indeed a big loss.
It isn’t about “what ifs”, as other communities have been able to adjust due to having a viable option that is in line with the current street grid. Syracuse’s community grid plan for the I-81 viaduct removal is an example of this. The city has already done this with the Eastern portion of the Loop. So, they would likely have another street added to the grid going east-west.
My point about going across town for work isn’t the case for everyone. For instance, would you suggest to someone coming to the area to work at Harris near East High to live in the western suburbs or would you suggest suburbs just east of the city? While budget and other factors may come into play, I would think most people would suggest places of good quality and a short commute. That is all I am getting at.
Last edited by ckhthankgod; 03-17-2022 at 07:13 PM..
Are these for the off-peak times when the traffic is at its sparsest? That footage looks like really low utilization. Maybe it's an off-season, too?
I'm curious, does the amount of development after Inner Loop East went down strike you as more or less than you initially expected? Were there people you knew of that were convinced that there would be absolutely nothing that would take its place?
This portion of the Inner Loop literally has NO entrance ramp. It was planned to tie in to a proposed expressway from the south that never materialized. So you had to navigate through a bunch of neighborhood streets for about a mile to get to the IL from I490 eastbound.
I'm disappointed in the development as it's just a bunch of 4-5 story buildings with a slightly different facade all lined up in a row. Rochester is a very creative city. Can't we do better?.
Are these for the off-peak times when the traffic is at its sparsest? That footage looks like really low utilization. Maybe it's an off-season, too?
I'm curious, does the amount of development after Inner Loop East went down strike you as more or less than you initially expected? Were there people you knew of that were convinced that there would be absolutely nothing that would take its place?
So I’m not the only one, as it doesn’t look like bumper to bumper traffic for a city that is admittedly about 2/3rds of its peak population in city limits.
So I’m not the only one, as it doesn’t look like bumper to bumper traffic for a city that is admittedly about 2/3rds of its peak population in city limits.
I'm not sure, but I believe OC is from the NYC metro, or Hudsen Valley where traffic can be horrendous compared to upstate cities.
And like I said, the access to this end of the IL was limited
I'm not sure, but I believe OC is from the NYC metro, or Hudsen Valley where traffic can be horrendous compared to upstate cities.
And like I said, the access to this end of the IL was limited
I live in NYC though I'm not from there and have lived in several different places in the US and East Asia. That isn't just sort of low utilization, that's very low utilization for that kind of infrastructure. I take it that footage might have been in particularly low periods of traffic as there can be pretty large daily and seasonal variations.
I do appreciate your optimism that the removal could have lead to even greater development. That's pretty promising--hopefully that faith is justified and the removal of Inner Loop North will lead to even more intensive development than what Inner Loop East is seeing.
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