Do we underestimate and downplay how Great Sacramento weather really is? (Los Angeles: estate, expensive)

[the topper]

Originally Posted by tstieber

"The topper" makes drastic exaggerations of everything in every forum. Everything is extreme and black and white. Don't mind him. :-)

110 in Sacramento an exaggeration?

[Chimérique]

Originally Posted by tstieber

But I will agree with sav858 that SoCal coast tends not to be too windy. However, this year's May Gray has been windier than normal, adding to the misery. Pacific coastal weather tends to be fickle in the fog department, and I generally prefer inland climates like Sacramento except during the winter when it stays a bit too cool.

There is almost always some sort wind on the coast/beach. Especially up north for sure, but like almost every single day in SoCal as well. I actually lived within a 1/4 mile of Will Rogers beach, specifically "little santa monica canyon" as the locals used to refer to it. It's where Channel Road meets the PCH, at the border of Santa Monica and the City of Los Angeles(The city limits of LA wraps around Santa Monica and just north of it is Pacific Palisades(LA) and Topanga Canyon(LA) north of that is Malibu.

Growing up in SD, I lived less than 4 miles of the Pacific Beach Pier in San Diego, again the wind is almost always blowing. Not sure how well you or sav858 knows the beach if you don't live there, Walnut Creek aint the beach, and just 15 miles inland in SD County is a lot different than being within 4 miles of it, you must know that if you live in San Diego, maybe not.

Like I said before , May Gray, is excellent for Sacramento. It's not gray like the Cali Coast rather its bright and sunny, excellent air quality, windy, and 60F at 7:30pm.

[Chimérique]

Originally Posted by the topper

110 in Sacramento an exaggeration?

The Average is less than one day per year.

[the topper]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

The Average is less than one day per year.

Lots of above 105 though

[Chimérique]

July 2016 - Summer

How many 100F Heat Index Days?

Phoenix - 28 Days - heat index

Austin - 26 Days - heat index

Dallas - 26 Days - heat index

Fresno - 9 Days - heat index

Sacramento - 3 Days - heat index

[tstieber]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

July 2016 - Summer

How many 100F Heat Index Days?

Phoenix - 28 Days - heat index

Austin - 26 Days - heat index

Dallas - 26 Days - heat index

Fresno - 9 Days - heat index

Sacramento - 3 Days - heat index

Okay but not just heat index... What about actual temperatures? Sac averages 14 days above 100 per Summer. And even that's not that bad. Of course, how many days average, let's say, 95 or above? Probably a lot! Still hot, but... low dew points.

I've wouldn't say Sacramento doesn't feel hot in summer. But, "It's a dry heat," as they famously say about the West. And that makes it a pleasant heat.

[tstieber]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

There is almost always some sort wind on the coast/beach. Especially up north for sure, but like almost every single day in SoCal as well. I actually lived within a 1/4 mile of Will Rogers beach, specifically "little santa monica canyon" as the locals used to refer to it. It's where Channel Road meets the PCH, at the border of Santa Monica and the City of Los Angeles(The city limits of LA wraps around Santa Monica and just north of it is Pacific Palisades(LA) and Topanga Canyon(LA) north of that is Malibu.

Growing up in SD, I lived less than 4 miles of the Pacific Beach Pier in San Diego, again the wind is almost always blowing. Not sure how well you or sav858 knows the beach if you don't live there, Walnut Creek aint the beach, and just 15 miles inland in SD County is a lot different than being within 4 miles of it, you must know that if you live in San Diego, maybe not.

Like I said before , May Gray, is excellent for Sacramento. It's not gray like the Cali Coast rather its bright and sunny, excellent air quality, windy, and 60F at 7:30pm.

I'll say that growing up in Walnut Creek, I definitely didn't have a good perspective on the coastal weather. It's really far from the actual coast. But being in San Diego for so many years and living anywhere from Mission Valley to Scripps Ranch, we've always been close enough to the coast that we are there all the time. It's not like we stay in our neighborhood and won't drive the 15 to 20 minutes. I've been to La Jolla twice this week, and each time it was chilly and breezy. There seems to be a large swath of Southern California that doesn't get very much wind, just east of that coastal strip and just west of the farther Inland valleys. It's actually reminds me quite a bit of San Jose. Once you get farther inland again, like Ramona for example, you can expect even more of an afternoon Breeze than along the coast. Where we live now, we are actually far enough east and high enough in elevation, over 900 feet, that we get quite a bit of regular afternoon Breeze, enough so that I'd say we have no more than a dozen truly balmy evenings per year where we can sit outside for dinner, even though we are regularly 15 to 25 degrees warmer than the coast during the day. But the coast still affects us. It's definitely different from the Hillcrest / Mission Valley / Mira Mesa type climate that's only five or six miles to our West and that I say would predominates most of metro San Diego.

So that's a long way of saying yes, I totally understand the coastal Breeze because I live in it now. When we lived in Mission Valley, it almost felt like we were living in a stage set with no weather. Now, we definitely perceive the weather a lot more, but in a nice way, more similar to what I remember growing up in Walnut Creek, and perhaps a modified and gentler form of what you have in Sacramento. And I absolutely love it.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

There is almost always some sort wind on the coast/beach. Especially up north for sure, but like almost every single day in SoCal as well. I actually lived within a 1/4 mile of Will Rogers beach, specifically "little santa monica canyon" as the locals used to refer to it. It's where Channel Road meets the PCH, at the border of Santa Monica and the City of Los Angeles(The city limits of LA wraps around Santa Monica and just north of it is Pacific Palisades(LA) and Topanga Canyon(LA) north of that is Malibu.

Growing up in SD, I lived less than 4 miles of the Pacific Beach Pier in San Diego, again the wind is almost always blowing. Not sure how well you or sav858 knows the beach if you don't live there, Walnut Creek aint the beach, and just 15 miles inland in SD County is a lot different than being within 4 miles of it, you must know that if you live in San Diego, maybe not.

Like I said before , May Gray, is excellent for Sacramento. It's not gray like the Cali Coast rather its bright and sunny, excellent air quality, windy, and 60F at 7:30pm.

I lived 8 blocks from the ocean in Pacific Beach, which is a helluva lot closer than 4 miles. I would ride by bike along the boardwalk 3 miles to my gym at the Wavehouse after work 5 days a week. It's nowhere near as windy as the Northern CA coast. Even when there is a slight breeze on the beach it will dissipate just several blocks away many times. And again San Diego is less windy than Sacramento and that's a fact. You yourself always talk about the "Delta Breeze", aka the WIND, in Sacramento all the time.

"May Gray" isn't a thing in Northern CA, it's actually one of SF's sunniest months of the year while being the opposite in Southern CA.

[Chimérique]

Originally Posted by sav858

I lived 8 blocks from the ocean in Pacific Beach, which is a helluva lot closer than 4 miles. I would ride by bike along the boardwalk 3 miles to my gym at the Wavehouse after work 5 days a week. It's nowhere near as windy as the Northern CA coast. Even when there is a slight breeze on the beach it will dissipate just several blocks away many times. And again San Diego is less windy than Sacramento and that's a fact. You yourself always talk about the "Delta Breeze", aka the WIND, in Sacramento all the time.

"May Gray" isn't a thing in Northern CA, it's actually one of SF's sunniest months of the year while being the opposite in Southern CA.

You conveniently forgot the part that I lived 2 BLOCKS from the ocean in LA, which is a helluva lot closer than 8 blocks, lol. You missed the whole point that the marine layer (clouds and wind) combined with 60F or LESS on the coast (north or south) can feel chilly or cold especially during the summer while most of the rest of the nation is experiencing much warmer "real summer" type weather.

Oh Really, "May Gray" isn't a thing in NorCal, tell that to the folks who live on the western side of the SF Peninsula.

Not only do they have "May Gray" and "June Gloom", they have "JULY IS A LIE", and "AUGUST IS THE FOGGIEST" as well. It's friggin chilly, foggy, windy, and overcast on the SF Peninsula coast practically all summer long. Its not normal warm/hot summer weather that most of the nation experiences.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

You conveniently forgot the part that I lived 2 BLOCKS from the ocean in LA, which is a helluva lot closer than 8 blocks, lol. You missed the whole point that the marine layer (clouds and wind) combined with 60F or LESS on the coast (north or south) can feel chilly or cold especially during the summer while most of the rest of the nation is experiencing much warmer "real summer" type weather.

Oh Really, "May Gray" isn't a thing in NorCal, tell that to the folks who live on the western side of the SF Peninsula.

Not only do they have "May Gray" and "June Gloom", they have "JULY IS A LIE", and "AUGUST IS THE FOGGIEST" as well. It's friggin chilly, foggy, windy, and overcast on the SF Peninsula coast practically all summer long. Its not normal warm/hot summer weather that most of the nation experiences.

You mean in a CANYON which tend to funnel winds? Doesn’t sound like you were on the beach nearly as much as I was. No wonder your perception is so off and skewed.

So now it’s 60 and not 65? You’re always moving the goal post it seems. Again it’s not nearly as windy on the Southern CA coast as the Northern CA coast or even Sacramento. So 60f feels warmer in San Diego than it does in SF and Sacramento because it’s less windy on average. FACT.

May Gray and June Gloom aren’t terms commonly used up here and never have been. And for good reason as it doesn’t make much sense seeing that May is statistically one of the sunniest months of the year along the Northern CA coast, FACT. While in Southern CA it’s one of least sunny months. So go ahead and call it May gray, one will just sound stupid considering it’s one of the sunniest months of the year.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_Gloom

“June Gloom is a Southern California term for a...”

Not sure why Northern California is all of a suddenly trying to copy and use these SoCal terms so much.