Do we underestimate and downplay how Great Sacramento weather really is? (Los Angeles: occupation, reasons)

[dontbelievehim]

Quick update since chim is out enjoying the glorious weather and can't be bothered

Airport readings at 1pm
87f heat index Sacramento
99f heat index Fresno
108f heat index Portland

[Chimérique]

Hey, don't, are u enjoying this,

Around Noon, earlier today Jun 27, 2021

Sacramento 78F

Seattle 95F - and legitimately humid, dew point 65F. All that water surrounding Seattle ain't doing it any justice, just making it worse.
Portland 95F - and legitimately muggy, dew point 60F

Phoenix 109F

When Sacramento is 95F its dew point is almost always well below 55F, pleasant and comfortable, rarely rarely, if ever, muggy.

Dew Point Comfort Scale
Pleasant: less than 55F
Comfortable: 56-60F
Getting Sticky- 61-65F
Uncomfortable: 66-70F
Oppresive: 71-75F
Miserable:76F and higher

[Chimérique]

Around 6ish, late afternoon, June 27, 2021

San Francisco - 52F wind chill, its never ever warm in SF.

Milwaukee 75F
Sacramento 81F - Perfect, Delta Breeze is picking-up, dew point 57F - Comfortable

Salt Lake City 87F
Washington DC 94F - Heat Index

Seattle 102F - Heat Index
Fresno 103F
Las Vegas 106F
Portland 107F - Heat Index

Phoenix 111F - For the last 37 days its been over 100F in Phoenix, except for 2 days in the high 90's, almost 1/3 of those days have been 110F or more. That's 35 days of 100F to 117F. Often it was still in the high 90's or 100F past midnight.

[Chimérique]

The following morning, 6ish, June 28, 2021, Morning temps

San Francisco - 51F wind chill, its NEVER "warm" in SF.

Sacramento 58F - Strong Delta-Pacific cool Breezes, awesome cool down, excellent time to tend the vegetable garden, dew point 55F - Pleasant.

San Diego 65F
Milwaukee 65F

Fresno 69F
Salt Lake City 72F
Redding, CA 73F

Bakersfield, CA 80F
Seattle 80F - heat index
Portland 80F - heat index
Washington DC 80F - heat index
Boston 81F - heat index - so far north yet so hot and humid in the morning

Phoenix 89F
Las Vegas 90F

[Chimérique]

Same cities, later that afternoon, 1PM, June 28, 2021, afternoon temps

San Francisco - 56F wind chill, still Not warm in SF. Chilly for the afternoon in the middle of summer.

San Diego 68F, June Gloom, not much of a warm-up.

Milwaukee 71F, even the Mid-west is warmer than SF and SD.

Sacramento 85F - Nice warm-up, but dew point is still 55F, Perfect and Pleasant, Sunny clear clean skies, excellent al fresco patio weather
Salt Lake City 85F

Fresno 93F
Bakersfield, CA 97F
Washington DC, 98F - heat index

Boston 100F - heat index - so far north yet so hot and humid
Redding, CA 101F
Las Vegas 102F

Seattle 105F - heat index
Phoenix 107F
Portland 110F - heat index


Sacramento is 25 degrees COOLER THAN PORTLAND, 20 degrees COOLER Than SEATTLE.
and AS usual, Sacramento is 22 degrees COOLER than Phoenix, 17 degrees COOLER than Las Vegas

[dontbelievehim]

114 hottest temp for downtown Sacramento
115f is the hottest ever for sac executive airport
Not sure what the hottest temp at sac international is.

113-114f is the hottest temp for the new airport in Fresno.
115f for the old airport(1905 record?!)

117f is the hottest recorded temp at the Vegas airport

Will portland topple these records? We'll be finding out very soon

[dontbelievehim]

The Portland Airport officially hit 116°F shortly after 5pm this evening making this the warmest temperature on record. This breaks yesterday's warmest temperature on record of 112°F. 3 days ago the warmest temperature on record was 107°F set twice in Aug '81 & once in Jul '65.

Hotter than any airport temp in sac and Fresno(probably bako, too)

Cities aren't the only ones joining in the fun
91f in South lake Tahoe today
Hot tamale
That had to be warmer than shaver lake

[Chimérique]

Originally Posted by dontbelievehim

The Portland Airport officially hit 116°F shortly after 5pm this evening making this the warmest temperature on record. This breaks yesterday's warmest temperature on record of 112°F. 3 days ago the warmest temperature on record was 107°F set twice in Aug '81 & once in Jul '65.

Hotter than any airport temp in sac and Fresno(probably bako, too)

Cities aren't the only ones joining in the fun
91f in South lake Tahoe today
Hot tamale
That had to be warmer than shaver lake

Very intersting, good post!

But, do you see how "record temps" are such a distraction in characterizing what the weather/climate is primarily like in a certain place.

Because of these latest records, we can always point to how HOT Portland is and even hotter than Sacramento or Fresno, but we know that's not true most of the time.

And we can now say its in the "triple digits" all the time in Portland, which is not true for either Portland or Sacramento.

Which leads me to reporting on and dwelling upon the "high temp" in Sacramento. Which is, also, not an accurate and comprehensive portrayal of how comfortable a typical Sacramento summer day is, in this case, because of the 30-40 degree difference between and high and low (diurnal) temps in Sacramento. It may have been a high of 90F in Sacramento but it was as low as 58F earlier and all morning long and most of the afternoon it was comfortable, really for only 1/2 hour it might have felt a little too warm in the direct sun, but shortly thereafter it was very comfortable for the rest of the daylight hours and into the night. A high of 90F in Sacramento is comfortable and doable, 90F in SF and Seattle is hell on earth because of unfavorable dew points, humidity levels, and unfavorable diurnal ranges.

[NewToCA]

Hey Chim, with your extensive interest in Sacramento weather, have you kept track at all about how often we go above and below the high average temperatures?

I've been out here since mid 2006, and it seems to me that at least for the May through October periods of each year, we seem to exceed the "average" highs far more often, and to a greater degree, than we do being below the average highs.

Just wondering if you've got any data concerning those historical records for high daily temps.

[dontbelievehim]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

Very intersting, good post!

But, do you see how "record temps" are such a distraction in characterizing what the weather/climate is primarily like in a certain place.

Because of these latest records, we can always point to how HOT Portland is and even hotter than Sacramento or Fresno, but we know that's not true most of the time.

And we can now say its in the "triple digits" all the time in Portland, which is not true for either Portland or Sacramento.

Which leads me to reporting on and dwelling upon the "high temp" in Sacramento. Which is, also, not an accurate and comprehensive portrayal of how comfortable a typical Sacramento summer day is, in this case, because of the 30-40 degree difference between and high and low (diurnal) temps in Sacramento. It may have been a high of 90F in Sacramento but it was as low as 58F earlier and all morning long and most of the afternoon it was comfortable, really for only 1/2 hour it might have felt a little too warm in the direct sun, but shortly thereafter it was very comfortable for the rest of the daylight hours and into the night. A high of 90F in Sacramento is comfortable and doable, 90F in SF and Seattle is hell on earth because of unfavorable dew points, humidity levels, and unfavorable diurnal ranges.

115 and 117 in Salem, or. As well

Humidity was bad in Portland, but even worse near Seattle. Crazy to think that Portland will likely have a worse two day stretch this summer than Fresno. The 111(2x) didn't feel that bad here because of clouds(high elevation) and a breeze. I don't think any deaths were reported from it.
Portland also had a terrible ice storm this year. It tore up their infrastructure, ppl were furious. It sometimes pays off to be part of the Southwest, things tend to be more stable around here.

Here's a chart for you, chim. Enjoy(edit: Spokane will be moving up soon)