Taxation by the drink (Graham, Leonard: home, living in, restaurant)

[rd2007]

how about the police drive around with their eyes open? I have absolutely no problem spotting many cars every day that obviously have intoxicated drivers in them.. it's not like you really have to look hard in this town. Hanging outside of bars at closing time is another excellent way to find stupid drunk drivers and it's not like they're hard to spot... Someone needs to do something around here because it's getting worse instead of better. The huge amount of drunk drivers is one thing I really don't like about this city/state and anyone that denies there is a problem is either blind, ignorant of the facts, or in complete denial..

[tgannaway89]

We could reduce alcohol related fatalities by hiring EMS that will check pulses and getting rid of a police chief that lies to the city in press releases...

[rd2007]

yes, because the EMS people went out, got drunk, and slammed into another car... Wow..

[tgannaway89]

Originally Posted by rd2007

yes, because the EMS people went out, got drunk, and slammed into another car... Wow..

I already stated my views on the subject. This additional statement was just a remark regarding EMS that doesn't follow procedure, and what is becoming a corrupt police force led by a man that believes he is an autocrat. Of course the EMS is not litterally at fault.

However, EMS failed to do their job properly when they ignored procedures. McManus made things worse when he made some controversial statements. Now, in an attempt to redeem himself, he is proposing methods to reduce drinking and driving in the city. He is fake. He only wants to look like he is the defender of victims because he angered a lot of voters. McManus is not thinking of the city, he is thinking about the best way to ensure he keeps his job.

[rd2007]

I completely agree with you on the chief, but the EMS thing is a sore subject for me.. It would be nice if everyone was perfect and mistakes didn't happen, but the root cause is still responsible for 100% of the blame..
It is definitely time to clean house at the SAPD, though, and that includes a lot of its uniformed employees and it should continue to the Sheriff's Department as well.. the level of incompetence and corruption reminds me more of LAla land..

[wehotex]

Originally Posted by SnappyBob

I read in todays paper that the police chief want to start charging a 10 cent tax for every drink that is served. That figures. It worked so well for cigaretts and topless bars now they are looking to see what else they can tax us on. I think McManus has his eye on the mayors office. Maybe he thinks he is already mayor.

the problem with this is that the bar owners would not charge 10 cents, but would most likely "round it up" to 25 cents. liquor is already taxed enough and doesn't need to be even more taxed than it is already.

[sapphire]

Originally Posted by tgannaway89

We could reduce alcohol related fatalities by hiring EMS that will check pulses and getting rid of a police chief that lies to the city in press releases...

Obviously EMS wouldn't be out there scraping people's brain matter up, and the police would not feel a need to cover their a$$es if stupid "alcoholics" would just keep their butts at home when they decide that getting drunk is the most important thing/they are the most important people in the world. Of course, it's a disease, so they aren't really deciding to do these things but they've gone and done it, so now innocent people suffer?

You could charge a drunk (at a bar) an extra $5 a drink--more than half the time they have no clue what they just shelled out.

[wehotex]

Originally Posted by sapphire

Obviously EMS wouldn't be out there scraping people's brain matter up, and the police would not feel a need to cover their a$$es if stupid "alcoholics" would just keep their butts at home when they decide that getting drunk is the most important thing/they are the most important people in the world. Of course, it's a disease, so they aren't really deciding to do these things but they've gone and done it, so now innocent people suffer?

You could charge a drunk (at a bar) an extra $5 a drink--more than half the time they have no clue what they just shelled out.

i'm also concerned that the police would "single out" certain types of bars, like gay bars for example. then you would they be discriminating based on the policemens' prejudices.

[sapphire]

Originally Posted by wehotex

i'm also concerned that the police would "single out" certain types of bars, like gay bars for example. then you would they be discriminating based on the policemens' prejudices.

So they don't do that now, but they'd start if they implemented the 10 cent tax?

[jules07]

Originally Posted by rd2007

how about the police drive around with their eyes open? I have absolutely no problem spotting many cars every day that obviously have intoxicated drivers in them.. it's not like you really have to look hard in this town. Hanging outside of bars at closing time is another excellent way to find stupid drunk drivers and it's not like they're hard to spot... Someone needs to do something around here because it's getting worse instead of better. The huge amount of drunk drivers is one thing I really don't like about this city/state and anyone that denies there is a problem is either blind, ignorant of the facts, or in complete denial..

Good points rd!!! Has anyone SEEN how many cars pile outta Graham Central Station at closing time? And I'm sure they're not all DD's!! And then there's the times when they let underage drunk drivers go home with somebody else's mommy instead of arresting them!! (Like they did with the idiots that slammed into my daughter and made her car roll twice. ) But Sapphire's right, it doesn't matter if you add 10 cents or 5 bucks to the drink, it's not gonna keep idiots from driving when they're drunk! And I think that the problem is larger than just alcoholics driving drunk. There's also a ton of weekend partiers (and weekday, for that matter) out there who are just too freakin' ignorant (or lazy or whatever) to arrange for a DD. I wish that laws were way tougher and strictly enforced! (Like take away their license for like.... forever on their first offense, and if they kill somebody, well I know I'll get slammed for this but I say lock 'em up for life!)

Originally Posted by gwrober

$.10 per drink
x
10 drinks
=
$1.00


You have 10 drinks on your typical night out Jules?!?

Heh! Nah, not all 10 for me. Otherhalf is almost always DD (since he really doesn't like drinking), so he'll maybe have one early in the evening. (And I wondered if anyone would catch that! LOL! )