04-22-2015, 08:13 PM
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Hi we are a family of 5 (me, wife, 2 sons ages 14 and 9, and our daughter age 11) moving from Dothan Alabama to San Diego CA due to a job transfer.
After reading up it seems like Santee, Lakeside or maybe Poway would fit our family best but we want to make sure so we are asking the locals.
We are pretty conservative, but we respect that CA isn't anymore but still we would like to find somewhere we would fit in. Just looking for a safe and nice middle class burb with okay schools. We are buying and looking for a 3 bedroom with parking for 2 trucks under $400 thousand, maybe $450 if the places is great. This is our first time in public schools as most people in AL with means send their kid to private academies to keep them away from bad elements. We want good schools that we feel safe sending our kids too..,big giant plus if there is a strong football program in the high school cuz our oldest boy is a good player and generally we are a big HS/College foot ball family (go Auburn!!!)
Will be working downtown and would prefer under 45 minutes driving commute.
Also we know that CA has some pretty strict rules about firearms, is it completely impossible for us to keep our guns? Is there some sort of test or licensing process we have to pass? I don't intend to carry all day but we are sport shooters and we would like to keep one in the home for personal protection
Thanks
04-22-2015, 08:43 PM
Location: California
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04-22-2015, 10:30 PM
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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What part of San Diego will you be working?
04-22-2015, 11:08 PM
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We are buying and looking for a 3 bedroom with parking for 2 trucks under $400 thousand, maybe $450 if the places is great. This is our first time in public schools as most people in AL with means send their kid to private academies to keep them away from bad elements. We want good schools that we feel safe sending our kids too..,big giant plus if there is a strong football program in the high school cuz our oldest boy is a good player and generally we are a big HS/College foot ball family (go Auburn!!!)
Will be working downtown and would prefer under 45 minutes driving
I would say that Santee is probably your best bet. It is the most suburban so you shouldn't expect country feel. Homes are usually big enough to accommodate a family of 5. Lakeside has country feel in some of the nicer areas but a lot of run down areas too, the schools are really iffy as is El Cajon and Spring valley . Possibly La mesa near the 125 in a small home could be good as well. I think you're likely priced out of a house in Poway but you could do a condo and of all these areas its a lot nicer. Commute from all of these areas will likely push 45 mins. Your real challenge is going to find a house big enough that hasn't already been converted to a halfway house.
04-23-2015, 10:22 AM
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What part of San Diego will you be working?
Downtown
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I would say that Santee is probably your best bet. It is the most suburban so you shouldn't expect country feel. Homes are usually big enough to accommodate a family of 5. Lakeside has country feel in some of the nicer areas but a lot of run down areas too, the schools are really iffy as is El Cajon and Spring valley . Possibly La mesa near the 125 in a small home could be good as well. I think you're likely priced out of a house in Poway but you could do a condo and of all these areas its a lot nicer. Commute from all of these areas will likely push 45 mins. Your real challenge is going to find a house big enough that hasn't already been converted to a halfway house.
I mean, a country feel is not necessary. Me and my wife grew up in the county in the MS Delta Region (Panola County) but we have been living in the city of Dothan since college and the kids have lived in a suburban area of a mid sized city their entire lives.
As for iffy, what do you mean? Do you mean gangs and drugs? Or do you mean not the best test scores? The second one isn't really that important as long as they are safe and kept away from unsavory elements I don't csrd if the school averages B - instead of A + or some phooey such as that. As I said in my opener, one of our biggest concerns with the high school is FOOTBALL. I will definitely take a C school with an A+ team because football is a big part of what we are all about and more than anything its the team quality, not the academic quality that will get our son drafted to a good University program.
We really don't need that large of a home, biggest space thing is going to have something to do with our trucks.
And...halfway houses?? What ads earth are you talking
04-23-2015, 12:06 PM
Location: Nashville, TN
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Downtown
I mean, a country feel is not necessary. Me and my wife grew up in the county in the MS Delta Region (Panola County) but we have been living in the city of Dothan since college and the kids have lived in a suburban area of a mid sized city their entire lives.
As for iffy, what do you mean? Do you mean gangs and drugs? Or do you mean not the best test scores? The second one isn't really that important as long as they are safe and kept away from unsavory elements I don't csrd if the school averages B - instead of A + or some phooey such as that. As I said in my opener, one of our biggest concerns with the high school is FOOTBALL. I will definitely take a C school with an A+ team because football is a big part of what we are all about and more than anything its the team quality, not the academic quality that will get our son drafted to a good University program.
We really don't need that large of a home, biggest space thing is going to have something to do with our trucks.
And...halfway houses?? What ads earth are you talking
As a native Southerner, I love this haha
04-23-2015, 12:18 PM
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As for iffy, what do you mean? Do you mean gangs and drugs? Or do you mean not the best test scores?
And...halfway houses?? What ads earth are you talking
Yes gangs and drugs, moreso drugs than gangs. Halfway houses or group homes are converted residential housing where recovering addicts live, they are all over the low-income areas of east county and can be hard to spot at a cursory glance.
San Diego doesn't really have the middle-income, low-cost decent areas that other more affordable cities do. It has a lot of really nice, really expensive areas and a lot of socioeconomically mixed, but still pretty expensive areas.
04-23-2015, 02:04 PM
Location: San Diego CA>Tijuana, BC>San Antonio, TX
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^^^ Drugs are everywhere and in every school, even the more affluent areas. I have yet to see crack and meth dealers on the streets of East County.
But I agree with everything Sassberto has said, even the group./halfway house thing. We had a Christian based teen group home living down the hill from us. The house was accros the canyon from us but those people were very loud and would sometimes argue. I am glad they moved out after a year. I wonder why these group homes prefer East County, I know of another one 2 streets down.
You can get into a great house in both Santee and Lakeside, but Santee is much more suburban and consistent than Lakeside. Both are about 20-25 minute drives from downtown SD in non-traffic hours. I also agree with Sassberto in that Lakeside is a street by street basis, there are some pretty ratty neighborhoods around here usually at the bottom of the hills near the main streets. With your price range, I am not so confident that you can find something nice on a good street in Lakeside, it would definitely need to be 450K+. If you want more rural feel, buy in Northern Lakeside (Eucalyptus Hills) or Eastern Lakeside (close to the 8 near Lake Jennings). If you want more sub-urban or semi-rural feel buy in the areas closer to El Cajon.
Below are links to homes currently on the market in both towns. Notice the wide range in SFH prices in Lakeside as compared to Santee.
Lakeside 275K - 1.5 Million
Santee 300K - 700K
SDLookup.com | Santee Houses
SDLookup.com | Lakeside Houses
04-23-2015, 02:17 PM
Location: San Diego CA>Tijuana, BC>San Antonio, TX
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Oh, and regarding the high school. My kids are still very young and only one attends school, so I can't tell you much about it, but Lakeside feeds into El Capitan High School. Not sure about the football program but they have the best FFA program in the County that is for sure.
I beleive Santee has two high schools, one called Santana and one called West Hills. Along with El Cap in Lakeside, they are part of the Grossmont Union School District.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grossmo...chool_District
04-23-2015, 03:16 PM
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El Cap went the farthest in CIF of any east county school. I've heard great things.
Being from the South you'll like the vibe in Lakeside, it won't be near a shock as a beach City. As far as your weapons, bring em. Handguns you'll have to log them at the DOJ website within a certain number of days. There ARE some rather nasty hidden things in CA law. There is a 10 round magazine limit. That means if you have a mag that's over that you'll have to leave em there. Same goes for any semi-auto rifle (dumb CA law). Do you have an AR style rifle? You'll have to attach what is called a bullet button to be legal. Take off your upper and remove the mag until you get this done.
Other than that, welcome to California! Not gonna show you my hog spots
Oh ya, for now unloaded/loaded open carry is not legal but there is a push in the court to make CCW shall issue. That may drag out for a while, we'll see.
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People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)