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Old 11-25-2016, 01:32 AM
 
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Endangered Species Act...

Case in point... a rancher in Contra Costa runs cattle every year and has done so over 120 years...

A few years back much of the land was deemed critical habitat of a snake which severely restricts what he can do with his land.

He does have the expensive option to petition out by submitting scientific data to refute... costly proposition.

Common sense would say if the snake and cattle have got along for 120 years why is there even an issue?

I have friends that wanted to rebuild the existing deck and learned the wetland buffer was greatly expanded so now permitting is a long process...

How do these things happen... like having land zoned for houses changed to one home... maybe all because someone deemed it so.

Federal Land is Federal Land... private land should remain private with all that entails and if a mouse or snake is deemed to supercede that the owner needs to be compensated for the taking of or loss of use.

My friends on Last Chance Road in Santa Cruz now must drive almost an hour more since a road that has existed for since before California became a State was obliterated... by the park system stating they lacked funds for maintenance and the kicker is the local ranchers and loggers did the maintenance.
I think Rosa Koire has the answer as to how these thing happen. For the record, she's a Democrat. It basically comes down to UN Agenda 21. Here is the short version:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipKHqY7uxSg&t=30s

And the long version:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ykELwj1Ta8&t=150s
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Old 11-25-2016, 03:33 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I remember the tax refund everyone got under Bush ... so the masses went out and bought giant flat screen TVs - that was not long before the calamitous and debt producing Iraq fiasco. Even if what Trump says is true, I don't support a tax cut.
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Old 11-25-2016, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I think Rosa Koire has the answer as to how these thing happen. For the record, she's a Democrat. It basically comes down to UN Agenda 21. Here is the short version:
Rosa Koire, agenda 21, really? Being a democrat is no guarantee that you aren't a candidate for a tin foil hat, that's for sure
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Old 11-27-2016, 07:30 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Default Fairfield

Personally, As a native of the SFBA, I don't consider Fairfield to be part of the San Francisco Bay Area. I think of it as a pit-stop on the way to Sacramento, the same as Vacaville.

As a matter of fact, Fairfield is 46 min (43.2 mi) via I-80 E to Sacramento

and

Fairfield is 47 min (37.4 mi) via I-80 W to Berkeley

Fairfield is 1 h 9 min (47.4 mi) via I-80 W to San Francisco


A local-to-Fairfield newspaper (Solano County's Daily Republic) opines on this. It says "Fairfield is in that “in-between” area – literally. It is 44 miles from downtown Fairfield to downtown Sacramento and 47 miles to downtown San Francisco." The mayor, though, considers Fairfield to be part of the Bay Area:

http://www.dailyrepublic.com/news/so...en-bay-valley/
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:23 AM
 
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I think Rosa Koire has the answer as to how these thing happen. For the record, she's a Democrat. It basically comes down to UN Agenda 21. Here is the short version:

There are crazy people on the left and the right, the difference is that liberals know to ignore their own party's crazies. The Right champions their own crazies and then they look fondly at those on the left.
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Old 11-28-2016, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Bay Area
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Personally, As a native of the SFBA, I don't consider Fairfield to be part of the San Francisco Bay Area. I think of it as a pit-stop on the way to Sacramento, the same as Vacaville.

As a matter of fact, Fairfield is 46 min (43.2 mi) via I-80 E to Sacramento

and

Fairfield is 47 min (37.4 mi) via I-80 W to Berkeley

Fairfield is 1 h 9 min (47.4 mi) via I-80 W to San Francisco


A local-to-Fairfield newspaper (Solano County's Daily Republic) opines on this. It says "Fairfield is in that “in-between” area – literally. It is 44 miles from downtown Fairfield to downtown Sacramento and 47 miles to downtown San Francisco." The mayor, though, considers Fairfield to be part of the Bay Area:

http://www.dailyrepublic.com/news/so...en-bay-valley/


Just thinking that Fairfield is too far to be in the Bay Area is your opinion, doesn't make it true however. Fairfield is in Solano Co which is in one of the 9 counties of the Bay area. If one is judging this by how long it takes to get to San Francisco with traffic, then you could say the same about Palo Alto, Sonoma, Petaluma, Antioch, Pleasanton/Livermore, Sunnyvale...MANY other cities. The Bay Area is an entire region---not based on how close it is to San Francisco specifically.

I'm sure I'm older than you, but there was actually a time back in the 70's and 80's when one could literally drive from Fairfield to the City in 25 minutes. I know this because I used to do it every other weekend when visiting my aunt in Fairfield. I lived in San Francisco. There wasn't much traffic back then. It wasn't a problem at all, and many people would do this commute without issue! Also, Fairfield/Suisun sits right on the Bay...which includes the San Francisco Bay Estuary Research Reserve.


But nevertheless, I'm not entirely sure as to why you posted this particular post on this thread? I probably just missed something along the way since I haven't read through all the posts.
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Old 11-28-2016, 11:30 AM
 
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I'm sure I'm older than you, but there was actually a time back in the 70's and 80's when one could literally drive from Fairfield to the City in 25 minutes. I know this because I used to do it every other weekend when visiting my aunt in Fairfield. I lived in San Francisco.
If you drove the 47.1 miles from Fairfield to SF in 25 minutes that means you were driving 113 mph!!!
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Old 11-28-2016, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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Its nice to see BS being called out.....
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Bay Area
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If you drove the 47.1 miles from Fairfield to SF in 25 minutes that means you were driving 113 mph!!!
Nah...probably more like 75-80. I exaggerated a tad--- But nevertheless... It wasn't a traumatic drive like it is now and Fairfield is still part of the Bay Area.
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:24 PM
 
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Nah...probably more like 75-80. I exaggerated a tad--- But nevertheless... It wasn't a traumatic drive like it is now and Fairfield is still part of the Bay Area.
lmao. Did you just deny math
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