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Old 03-02-2012, 07:57 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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It will always be affordable for them. They can cancel their cell-phones or cable to pay for gasoline. They can stop eating 337x per week at fast food restaurants.

There are many things than can do, and they will do them if they have no choice. I means seriously, work or cable TV? That's like a no-brainer. If you have to cancel cable in order to pay for gasoline to get to work and keep your job, then that is what they will do.

Not an issue...

Mircea
The way things are these days, I can see many people choosing their cell phone over their job. So many "phone drunks" staggering around with their head down and the world turned off.
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Old 03-02-2012, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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The biggest problem with high oil prices is far more than just getting to work, everything made using oil products, use oil products for energy, or use petroleum for transporting merchandise, the costs of production go up and are passed on to the consumers.

I live 6 miles from work, and could walk or bike, it just takes longer to get there, but I have no control over costs of things I can't produce at home.

It is more than just the cell phone or cable bill, clothing, repairs, food, everything goes up when the oil price goes up.

As for using old cooking oil as a diesel replacement, when you have a lot of people looking for it and using it, it becomes a marketable product and instead of a waste product you can get for free, suddenly it becomes as expensive as diesel.

It will be a tough situation for everybody no matter if they drive or not. The impact of high oil costs is passed around.
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Old 03-02-2012, 12:23 PM
 
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If there's no fuel, there's no food. Trucks bring food to stores. No fuel for trucks, people aren't eating.

If y'all are going to ride your bikes around while there's riots in the streets, good luck.

In those situations, the rural people just stay home. Spend a little more time in the gardens and defensive positions.
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Old 03-02-2012, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The way things are these days, I can see many people choosing their cell phone over their job. So many "phone drunks" staggering around with their head down and the world turned off.
Now that you mention it, so can I.

I can see people refusing to cancel their World of Warcraft subscription and just chucking their job. I say that because there's a "homeless shelter" for the mentally ill across the alley and there are at least 3 people there who are, um, "addicted" to video games and get Social Security Disability because of it.

Staggering...

Mircea
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Old 03-02-2012, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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If there's no fuel, there's no food. Trucks bring food to stores. No fuel for trucks, people aren't eating.

If y'all are going to ride your bikes around while there's riots in the streets, good luck.

In those situations, the rural people just stay home. Spend a little more time in the gardens and defensive positions.
All of the above is true, with one addendum...

Rural people will continue to do what they have been doing, which is trading and bartering between each other for what they can produce.
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Old 03-02-2012, 05:54 PM
 
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I want to keep an eye out during the summer to see which consumer products jump in price...I would presume that would likely be an indicator of what will eventually be out of reach to most people when the price of gas continues to climb. Food will definitely get more expensive.

I can't say which area of the US would be the best place to live when gas gets really expensive, maybe as others have said a mainly rural area where you're relatively close to your neighbours and everyone has a large kitchen garden, etc. I know where I wouldn't want to live...southern California.
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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All of the above is true, with one addendum...

Rural people will continue to do what they have been doing, which is trading and bartering between each other for what they can produce.
I wonder about if there would ever be a prolonged interruption of gas supply (can think of at least a few scenarios) how rural & farm folks would get their machinery running, let alone their vehicles. And getting to town for provisions, etc. As you say, farmers can barter and would be alright. But the ruralists who are rural for no real reason other than to live remote??

I have no idea if this could come to pass, but it seems like it could bring our nation down pretty fast, so what's the backup plan?
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:39 AM
 
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DH has a motorbike in case he needs to conserve gas... but our SUV is already great on gas.
Plus each of the family member has a riding bicycle... who cares about gas then???

If worse comes...
It is the ability to have food & water in the belly & shelter that takes prominence.... think what basic needs is.
Who needs to go anywhere if food, water & shelter is readily available where you are????

In the beginning, there is no available gas to humans either... and we still survived as a species....
Gas... but another bogus human needs.
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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DH has a motorbike in case he needs to conserve gas... but our SUV is already great on gas.
Plus each of the family member has a riding bicycle... who cares about gas then???

If worse comes...
It is the ability to have food & water in the belly & shelter that takes prominence.... think what basic needs is.
Who needs to go anywhere if food, water & shelter is readily available where you are????

In the beginning, there is no available gas to humans either... and we still survived as a species....

Gas... but another bogus human needs.
Yeah, until your goods don't get delivered...or you can't get to them....
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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Who needs to go anywhere if food, water & shelter is readily available where you are????

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Yeah, until your goods don't get delivered...or you can't get to them....
Not if ^^^you are the ones needing the food delivered from me.
Not from the city mind you.

Farm you see... even feed our own from our "feed" & veg & fruit farm.
Farm started even before gas was needed via modern machinery.
And plus there are always horses & old day plows that can help with crop harvesting... the Amish way. No problem there.

Old ways = Gas... but another bogus modern human needs.
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