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Old 01-27-2018, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Why are you assuming we are going to be storing foods we don't like?
If you liked it, you'd be eating it on a regular basis. Q.E.D.
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Old 01-27-2018, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Ossipee, NH
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If you liked it, you'd be eating it on a regular basis. Q.E.D.
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Old 01-27-2018, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Beautiful stove sub. I'm jealous. Is it inside for free supplemental heat during winter? Can you use it during the summer?
Usually, our summers are okay to have a cookstove indoors. Only for maybe 3 or 4 weeks is it so hot that would prohibit indoor cooking.
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Old 01-28-2018, 12:09 PM
 
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Why do people need a 25-30 year shelf life—because they find the thought of eating it so disgusting that they won't touch it unless they're starving?

If I didn't enjoy eating what I store, I wouldn't store it.
Because you don't know when the next major SHTF scenario will happen...could be in 2 weeks, could be in 10 years....so if one bought emergency prep foods, MRE's , etc. they could rest easy knowing they had an emergency supply ready and waiting for whenever....AND, a supply that will still last beyond that if such scenario turns out to be short lived. That's the whole reason NOT to touch such emergency prep foods....not because they taste disgusting but because they are emergency rations to be used only in an emergency situation when either perishable "stored" supplies run out or become unavailable. Tell me, how much food do you have stored? A year's worth that will feed a family of 4? How do you keep it in storage and/or does it need to be protected from spoilage, heat, etc?

Also, such emergency supply foods can be readily prepared by just adding hot water (or even room temp) if necessary and they do not need a source of energy to be prepared nor to be stored for a very long period of time. Do you have a yearlong + supply of stored food that will be edible or you only just add water to a year from now and be ready to eat?

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Old 01-28-2018, 12:10 PM
 
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If you liked it, you'd be eating it on a regular basis. Q.E.D.
See above
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Old 01-28-2018, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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I don't have emergency rations. I simply maintain an eighteen month store of food, FIFO. There are foods with shorter shelf lives, e.g., tomato juice: 6-9 months, but overall, what I do works. I have larger stocks of products with longer shelf lives. I maintain an indoor herb garden that will last indefinitely. I also raise hydroponic tomatoes and have rhubarb and asparagus that grow wild. There's a river about a half mile away that could feed everyone in the county if there were no tourists. A water windmill provides water without electricity, let alone electronics.

I'm on the electric grid, but I have a whole house back-up generator plus two small ones to back that up. I store both propane and diesel.

It's not a game for me; it's how I live.
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Old 01-28-2018, 01:48 PM
 
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I don't have emergency rations. I simply maintain an eighteen month store of food, FIFO. There are foods with shorter shelf lives, e.g., tomato juice: 6-9 months, but overall, what I do works. I have larger stocks of products with longer shelf lives. I maintain an indoor herb garden that will last indefinitely. I also raise hydroponic tomatoes and have rhubarb and asparagus that grow wild. There's a river about a half mile away that could feed everyone in the county if there were no tourists. A water windmill provides water without electricity, let alone electronics.

I'm on the electric grid, but I have a whole house back-up generator plus two small ones to back that up. I store both propane and diesel.

It's not a game for me; it's how I live.
Got it....you are more prepared for situations than most AND you have major advantages due to where you live....in fact you are in a minority, not everyone has a river/fish or watermill so close to where they live nor edibles growing wild so closely. But, as I pointed out in a previous post, your whole house generator, small generators and stored propane/diesel are not long term survival equipment as the fuel will be consumed in short order in a SHTF scenario and you will probably be unable to get more (or, if you can , not for very long).

Your situation is much different than housing communities or suburban/urban areas where many of your options are not feasible and people will either have to rely on emergency storage or scavenge.
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Old 02-01-2018, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Got it....you are more prepared for situations than most AND you have major advantages due to where you live....in fact you are in a minority, not everyone has a river/fish or watermill so close to where they live nor edibles growing wild so closely. But, as I pointed out in a previous post, your whole house generator, small generators and stored propane/diesel are not long term survival equipment as the fuel will be consumed in short order in a SHTF scenario and you will probably be unable to get more (or, if you can , not for very long).

Your situation is much different than housing communities or suburban/urban areas where many of your options are not feasible and people will either have to rely on emergency storage or scavenge.
The water windmill pumps the water from my well. The well is far too deep for hand pumping.

I do not anticipate a return to the Paleolithic. In fact, the world situation with respect to my situation looks better than it has for years.
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