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Hanging targets would have paid $75,000 on the government payroll awhile after 9/11. Because we suddenly realized we had unfathomable wealth to pay the GS folks with.
Never paid that. At most, about half of that.
(And I won't go into "where" I was "hanging targets" or what kind, since most people wouldn't even want to go there, let alone work there.)
I won't address HiW's comment, since he is living up to what I said about him, before.
Never paid that. At most, about half of that.
(And I won't go into "where" I was "hanging targets" or what kind, since most people wouldn't even want to go there, let alone work there.)
I won't address HiW's comment, since he is living up to what I said about him, before.
You got a short stick. Ingsoc Sheep Herders/Thought Cops/Net Denizens are GS11-13. The same as the civilian counter-part to the military base commanders were paid in the 90s. That was before we suddenly discovered our unfathomable wealth in the post 9/11 GWB/DC/PNAC environ.
I may not have approval by academia or the propaganda ministry, but I can read law.
The law says that only gold and silver coin pay debt. (Art.1, Sec. 8, 10, USCON)
And Congress only has the power to "coin money" (stamp bullion) or "borrow money" (ex: federal reserve notes). It has no power to create new bullion nor new money. (Art.1, Sec. 8, USCON)
Since 1933, and the State of Emergency (due to the impossible to repay public debt), the US gubmint has repudiated redeeming their notes with lawful money, hence becoming bankrupt. (HJR 192, June 1933; Gold Reserve Act of 1934)
And thanks to FICA, 320 million "human resources" signed up as "contributors" underwriting that impossible debt (that cannot be challenged pursuant to clause 4, 14th amendment, USCON). As obligated parties on those notes, you cannot object to their tender in lieu of lawful money.
So all you voluntary socialist serfs, perpetually bankrupt, trading with worthless IOUs that you're obligated to redeem on behalf of a bankrupted federal government, you're [BLEEPED]!
BIG COLLAPSE IMMINENT
How do we know this?
GOLD FACTS
Fort Knox allegedly holds 147.4 million ounces. ($2.9 billion)
World wide supply is estimated at 5.3 billion ounces. ($106 billion)
National debt requires OVER 1000 billion ounces to pay off. ($20+ trillion)
(Pursuant to the Coinage Act of 1792, et seq)
Dollars = gold coin (silver was demonetized in the Coinage Act of 1873)
Dollar bills = IOUs denominated in dollars (gold), but worthless since 1933
No dollars have circulated since 1933, when FDR confiscated all the gold money from "free" Americans and criminalized the possession of gold money by "free" Americans.
Excuse me, Mr Congressman, where's the 20 trillion in gold dollars lent to Congress when that sum of gold does not exist? Is the public debt bogus? And you cannot challenge the fraud because of the 14th amendment?
And is it not true, Congress has been borrowing MORE than it pays in debt service, doing what Bernie Madoff is in prison for doing in the private sector?
What happens when new investors realize that not only are they paying old investors, but the odds of getting their original investment back is nil?
Can you imagine what will happen when investors cease funding Congress' red ink?
[crickets chirping]
Better yet, can you imagine what would happen if a substantial number of Americans withdrew consent from FICA, ceased being contributors pledged as collateral on the debt, thus reducing the fungibility of the dollar bill? And cashed out all their bank accounts, etc, etc?
[crickets chirping]
Can you imagine what would happen if millions restored their endowed rights, ceased being consenting subjects, reduced the tax revenue substantially, and constrained the government to operate on a drastically reduced budget? (Rights cannot be subject to tax by governments instituted to secure those rights. Only government privileges are taxable.)
[crickets chirping]
And to insure no one thinks about these things, the world's greatest propaganda ministry will generate, instigate and agitate wherever possible.
DO.NOT.LOOK.BEHIND.THE.CURTAIN.LITTLE.GIRL.
I may not have approval by academia or the propaganda ministry, but I can read law.
The law says that only gold and silver coin pay debt. (Art.1, Sec. 8, 10, USCON)
And Congress only has the power to "coin money" (stamp bullion) or "borrow money" (ex: federal reserve notes). It has no power to create new bullion nor new money. (Art.1, Sec. 8, USCON)
Since 1933, and the State of Emergency (due to the impossible to repay public debt), the US gubmint has repudiated redeeming their notes with lawful money, hence becoming bankrupt. (HJR 192, June 1933; Gold Reserve Act of 1934)
And thanks to FICA, 320 million "human resources" signed up as "contributors" underwriting that impossible debt (that cannot be challenged pursuant to clause 4, 14th amendment, USCON). As obligated parties on those notes, you cannot object to their tender in lieu of lawful money.
So all you voluntary socialist serfs, perpetually bankrupt, trading with worthless IOUs that you're obligated to redeem on behalf of a bankrupted federal government, you're [BLEEPED]!
BIG COLLAPSE IMMINENT
How do we know this?
GOLD FACTS
Fort Knox allegedly holds 147.4 million ounces. ($2.9 billion)
World wide supply is estimated at 5.3 billion ounces. ($106 billion)
National debt requires OVER 1000 billion ounces to pay off. ($20+ trillion)
(Pursuant to the Coinage Act of 1792, et seq)
Dollars = gold coin (silver was demonetized in the Coinage Act of 1873)
Dollar bills = IOUs denominated in dollars (gold), but worthless since 1933
No dollars have circulated since 1933, when FDR confiscated all the gold money from "free" Americans and criminalized the possession of gold money by "free" Americans.
Excuse me, Mr Congressman, where's the 20 trillion in gold dollars lent to Congress when that sum of gold does not exist? Is the public debt bogus? And you cannot challenge the fraud because of the 14th amendment?
And is it not true, Congress has been borrowing MORE than it pays in debt service, doing what Bernie Madoff is in prison for doing in the private sector?
What happens when new investors realize that not only are they paying old investors, but the odds of getting their original investment back is nil?
Can you imagine what will happen when investors cease funding Congress' red ink?
[crickets chirping]
Better yet, can you imagine what would happen if a substantial number of Americans withdrew consent from FICA, ceased being contributors pledged as collateral on the debt, thus reducing the fungibility of the dollar bill? And cashed out all their bank accounts, etc, etc?
[crickets chirping]
Can you imagine what would happen if millions restored their endowed rights, ceased being consenting subjects, reduced the tax revenue substantially, and constrained the government to operate on a drastically reduced budget? (Rights cannot be subject to tax by governments instituted to secure those rights. Only government privileges are taxable.)
[crickets chirping]
And to insure no one thinks about these things, the world's greatest propaganda ministry will generate, instigate and agitate wherever possible.
DO.NOT.LOOK.BEHIND.THE.CURTAIN.LITTLE.GIRL.
The Ministry of Propaganda was far sighted when it tilted the educational system to become factories churning out socialists. Socialism is Communism in a pretty dress.
These commies love big government. Not the type to challenge the legitimacy of what our Congressional and Executive branch puppets have managed to get away with.
Another possibility is that the real value of gold may be multiples more than what the gold manipulators have foisted upon us. Yet another is the gold in Ft Knox was stolen and replaced with gold plated lead. Since it weighs the same as lead according to an investigation using a postal scale.
I'd say more but the weather is ideal for a dog hike right now.
Another possibility is that the real value of gold may be multiples more than what the gold manipulators have foisted upon us.
What "real value"? In malomars?
In quatloos? Frangibars? Euros? In dollar bills (worthless paper)?
The law?
"Dollars, or units; each to be of the value of a Spanish milled as the same is now current, and to contain three hundred and seventy-one grains and four-sixteenths parts of a grain of pure, or four hundred and sixteen grains of standard, silver."
"Eagles each to be of the value of ten dollars or units, and to contain two hundred and forty-seven grains and four eighths of a grain of pure, or two hundred and seventy grains of standard gold."
--- Sec. 9, Coinage Act of 1792, January 1792
A double eagle gold coin, approx. one troy ounce, has the value of twenty dollars.
A 20 trillion dollar debt computes to 1 trillion ounces stamped into coin.
(FDR tried a swindle after first declaring a state of emergency, confiscating gold and then shifted to $32 per ounce, but that would be unjust weights and measures. Wink, wink, nod, nod.)
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Yet another is the gold in Ft Knox was stolen and replaced with gold plated lead. Since it weighs the same as lead according to an investigation using a postal scale.
A gold dealer in Manhattan's Diamond District on 47th Street discovered that an evidently certified gold bar was in fact more than 75 percent Tungsten.
What "real value"? In malomars?
In quatloos? Frangibars? Euros? In dollar bills (worthless paper)?
The law?
"Dollars, or units; each to be of the value of a Spanish milled as the same is now current, and to contain three hundred and seventy-one grains and four-sixteenths parts of a grain of pure, or four hundred and sixteen grains of standard, silver."
"Eagles each to be of the value of ten dollars or units, and to contain two hundred and forty-seven grains and four eighths of a grain of pure, or two hundred and seventy grains of standard gold."
--- Sec. 9, Coinage Act of 1792, January 1792
A double eagle gold coin, approx. one troy ounce, has the value of twenty dollars.
A 20 trillion dollar debt computes to 1 trillion ounces stamped into coin.
(FDR tried a swindle after first declaring a state of emergency, confiscating gold and then shifted to $32 per ounce, but that would be unjust weights and measures. Wink, wink, nod, nod.)
A gold dealer in Manhattan's Diamond District on 47th Street discovered that an evidently certified gold bar was in fact more than 75 percent Tungsten.
Tungsten is a more recent development than when some of the Ft Knox gold was weighed. Tungsten weighs the same but the melting temp of over 5000 F keeps most people honest.
Tungsten is a more recent development than when some of the Ft Knox gold was weighed. Tungsten weighs the same but the melting temp of over 5000 F keeps most people honest.
Tungsten is hardly a recent discovery. It wouldn't be necessary or even desirable to melt it to counterfeit gold ingots.
Platinum saw use in debasing gold coins. It was once much less expensive but has a relatively close specific gravity. There were mines in Russia. Enterprising crooks would saw the coin in half from rim to rim. They would then scoop out the gold from the interior and replace it with platinum. The final step was to rejoin the obverse and reverse by heating the rim of the coin where the cut was.
There is a mathematical reason why a collapse is inevitable.
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Yup. Collapse is imminent
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics
I agree. Economic downward spiraling to collapse is imminent.
How many decades are you going to say words like "inevitable" and "imminent" regarding the collapse that still hasn't happened? Is there some line we can draw where you admit you were wrong, like if everything hasn't collapsed by 2025 or 2030 does jetgraphics finally eat some crow or is it some prediction that is allowed unfettered futurism to the point where we're making mockery of the word "imminent" that you like to bandy about so freely? I'd love to be guaranteed 100 year time horizon on "imminent" since I'd never be wrong in prognosticational flailings. The LA Clippers will win the NBA championship imminently!
Tungsten is hardly a recent discovery. It wouldn't be necessary or even desirable to melt it to counterfeit gold ingots.
Platinum saw use in debasing gold coins. It was once much less expensive but has a relatively close specific gravity. There were mines in Russia. Enterprising crooks would saw the coin in half from rim to rim. They would then scoop out the gold from the interior and replace it with platinum. The final step was to rejoin the obverse and reverse by heating the rim of the coin where the cut was.
Substituting tungsten for gold didn't become a big thing until less than a decade ago. Thats what I was trying to say.
As for Ft Knox gold weighing the same as lead bars? I can't find the YouTube video. A government official was there and laughed when the postal scale showed the "gold bar" weighed exactly what lead weighs. The official blamed it on the scale. Postal scales are pretty good and lead weighs significantly less than gold.
Ron Paul has led many efforts to audit the Fed and the gold. Always blocked by Congressional puppets.
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